Does Pac's Willingness to do random resting up to 24 days prior clear his name?

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Is Pac's Name Cleared by his agreement to 24 days?

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  2. No

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  1. Double L

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    Has Pac's willingness to give a blood test up until 24 days prior to the fight clear his name as far as his intentions to use PEDs?
     
  2. dymipepel

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    Absolutely not.
    The only way Pac can clear his name is to agree to random blood testing for 6 months before the fight, within any timeframe from 1 pm to 8 am.
     
  3. Ugotabe Kidding

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    No, he should do whatever Floyd wants him to because he has been knocked out
     
  4. steve_dave

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    Have Manny Pacquiao been outboxed by Erik Morales?
     
  5. Hut*Hut

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    Yes, in my book, absolutely.
     
  6. Buddy Rydell

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    The fine print looked like it said NSAC testing 24 days before the fight and testing right after the fight. I'm not a testing technician but the fight was going to happen on March 13th. If that was the case, then would Pac be able to take something in the next 41 days that would test clean by Feb 17th?

    Floyd agreed to the arbitrator and then rejected the arbitrator's decision after having agreed to arbitration along with Pac.

    If it was NSAC testing, then likely no blood would be taken on that Feb. 17th date.

    I wonder if that was the sticking point. Perhaps I'm missing some information?
     
  7. Double L

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    From the beginning Pac agreed to urine testing all the way up to the fight. So the Geb. 17th date had to apply to blood testing.
     
  8. Buddy Rydell

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    By bad, it was indeed bloodtesting on that date. Hmmm...well, again, I'm not an International Olympic Committee drugtesting advisor, but could Pac take something and still be clean?

    It looks like Floyd just doesn't want to make it happen.
     
  9. Double L

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    Experts, among whom PBF relied to make his case for random testing, have said that 24 days would be plenty to rule out the use of PEDs.

    The opponent PBF's chosen to fight instead, given who he's faced in his last three fights, is a strong indication this is about PBF and his fear of losing.

    By the way, I can't imagine this fight would NOT be on PPV - PBF is not under contract with HBO and so the money PBF's looking for would not be available if the fight were on HBO.

    That being the case, I can't imagine this will be anything but a flop. And will hurt PBF's negotiating power going forward.
     
  10. mexican wedding shirt

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    Plus being prepared to do a blood test right after the fight in his dressing room? Yes.
     
  11. Hut*Hut

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    God Im sick of this malarky. Was Pac willing to do random tests right up to 24hrs before or not?
     
  12. Double L

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    24 days.
     
  13. Hut*Hut

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    I should learn to read. In that case, not really. Fuck 'em both.
     
  14. Fighter

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    No. Because he is not willing to do random urine testing. Oh wait...

    No. Because he has lost before and been knocked out before. No because it takes 6 months to properly promote a PPV event. No because you guys don't know boxing. No because Floyd doesn't dodge or duck any opponent. No because you guys don't know boxing.
     
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    Floyd is scared. His legacy is officially ruined.
     
  16. mexican wedding shirt

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    Even though Manny agrees to 3 blood tests, random urine tests anytime, and a blood test right after the fight in his dressing room? Even though he only has to give a post fight piss test under boxing rules?

    Nah, not fuck them both, fuck Floyd. It's clear who did and who didn't want the fight.

    Floyd hasn't wanted to fight anyone with a vague possibility of beating him since he lost to Castillo. Apart from Oscar, and then he bottled a rematch with Oscar, despite the huge money involved. Oscar too big, too risky.
     
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    Agreed.

    There's not more to it.
     
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    MWS, not. Fuck them both.

    Manny is willing to do it 24 days before the fight but not 23? Not 17? He would be too weak? Come on man, this two guys are just pissing at each other at this point. Fuck Floyd for not being the bigger man and going with it as well. Fuck them both and I don't care what they do next unless it's Mosley or them fighting each other. How can we get excited for anything else? Fuck them.
     
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    Didn't Floyd just outbox the shit out of Mannys daddy?
     
  20. Double L

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    yeah! buy into that shit. buy it. buy it bitch !!!
     
  21. Haymaker

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    what for? by the time they step into the ring, pacquiao would've cleaned up the mess already.
     
  22. mexican wedding shirt

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    Didn't Pacquiao just crush Floyd's two best wins in a row, in 100 times more impressive fashion than Floyd did?
     
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    Look at it like this. This whole saga has been about the olympic style testing.

    Which side did this demand come from? Which side introduced this unprecedented demand?

    Before anyone says "Oh but but but, the gloves, but the money, but the weight!".

    Yes, they are a normal part of fight negotiating, olympic style testing isn't.

    If Floyd requested that they both train in pink lingerie everyday, should Manny agree to that too?
     
  24. Haymaker

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    are you happy with a testing method that is very easy to pass? like the one used nowadays? You should read what that guy from balco said. The testing done today is a joke!
     
  25. mexican wedding shirt

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    That's irrelevant.

    That wasn't Floyd's motives, you think Floyd gives a shit about better drug tests? If he did, he would have been campaigning about them long before this.

    This was his way out of the fight, and a way of making Manny look bad, instead of backing out over money etc.
     
  26. mikE

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    Why would he expect Manny to refuse? Couldn't he have just refused over the $10M/lb request? And why not refuse over the money if he didn't want to fight? Floyd could make a decent case he deserved more money than Manny, but he didn't. (Not saying he would win, I like 50/50, but he had good arguments)

    Your focus is so much on Floyd and not what happened. It is a flawed argument and you are exemplifying it beautifully, if nothing else:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
     
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    And Pac moved up in weight. Floyd made the other guy move up two weightclasses.
     
  28. Hut*Hut

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    Im more disgusted and disappointed in this episode than anything else in the 10+ years I've followed this abomination of a sport. Fuck'em both and fuck boxing. Crock of utter horse shit. My toys are officially out the pram.
     
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    Clear his name of what? He's done nothing wrong in the first place.
     
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    Exactly.
     

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