Is Golden Boy tanking the fight on purpose?

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  1. Streetfighter

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    I am wondering if they want to save pac for Mosley which is the next logical fight. Floyd wants to fight Pac I have no doubt and I think that is the reason he came back, but Golden Boy could tank these talks to set up Pac vs Mosley and keep Pac from losing to Floyd. This could be Mosley's swan song fight. If Mosley beats Berto then it's the fight outside of Floyd vs Pac.

    Also, they could be doing it to give Mosley Floyd.
     
  2. Hanz

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    :dunno: You're thinking too hard SF. The bottom line is, Floyd is a coward who is avoiding Pacman and Mosley and is instead opting to fight bums.
     
  3. Buddy Rydell

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    That would be one hell of a fight. I don't think Shane would be hard to find, and I think he could turn the trick on Manny. Maybe even catch him coming in with a blitzing left hook.

    HELL of a fight!
     
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    I would not be in the least bit surprised if Flid manages to not fight either Manny or Shane.
     
  5. Hanz

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    Why doesn't that chicken cocksucker Floyd fight Mosley? He already punked Floyd face to face and made him look like a bitch. Why doesn't Floyd stop crying about being disrespected and go do something about it? Go fight some real f*cking fighters!
     
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    If Floyd doesn't want Manny, then Mosley is the best fight out there for Pac. That would be ALL action. Shane isn't afraid to get in there and throw down. He won't be running, throwing elbows, and turning his back.
     
  7. Streetfighter

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    I honestly think Floyd came back to fight Pac. I don't think he is avoiding him. It was after Pac Ko'd Hatton Floyd announced his comeback.
     
  8. V10

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    Are you guys blind? It's clearly Top Rank who doesn't want the fight.


    Pacquiao Moving on, Mayweather Still Wants Fight
    Mayweather promoter argues for compromise, but Pacquiao promoter says megafight still dead

    While Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s camp insists his prospective bout with Manny Pacquiao can be saved, Pacquiao's promoter says he's moving on.

    After six weeks of contentious negotiations failed to produce a compromise on Mayweather's insistence on stringent drug testing for the bout, Pacquiao has made plans to fight welterweight Joshua Clottey in mid-March, Top Rank boss Bob Arum told The Associated Press on Friday.

    Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who works with Mayweather, isn't ready to give up. He's worried Top Rank hasn't told Pacquiao that the potential richest fight in boxing history could be saved if the Filipino star would agree to take a blood test for performance-enhancing drugs 14 days before the proposed March 13 bout.



    Just fucking make the fight happen Manny, jesus.
     
  9. Hanz

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    Regardless of what you THINK, Floyd is not showing any desperation to fight the real fighters who can destroy him! That's the problem here! He's fighting unqualified fighters at catch weights. Floyd announced his return just prior to Pac/Hatton I believe.
    Floyd has been far more cautious in his approach to taking legit fights since the Castillo fights. Those fights damaged his confidence and he feels he may lose to any of the top guys which is why he's trying to maximize his earnings potential through safe fights.
    He ducked Margarito, ducked Cotto, ducking Pacman, ducking Mosley and instead is fighting f*cking Baldomir, Marquez and crap. And Marquez came up 2 weight classes to fight him while Floyd came in over the limit and paid the 600K fine. He had no intention of making weight. The guy's a con-man cheating people out of their money.
     
  10. *Z*

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    Manny already compromised on the original offer, agreeing to take a blood test 24 days out and right after the fight. Which according to experts is good enough to detect any PED use.

    So why in the fuck do you guys keep insisting Manny give in to Mayweather's ridiculous demands? It's just fucking stupid.

    It's so easy for Floyd to say he wanted the fight NOW, after negotiations are dead. If you can't see through this shit, you are blind as fuck. Mayweather had the chance to make it happen. It was HIM who wouldn't compromise.
     
  11. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    GBP doesn't promote Manny, why would they protect him? They DO however promote Mayweather, even though Floyd likes to call it "Mayweather Promotions" The license on record for any Mayweather promoted event is none other than GBP.

    Look for Oscar vs Mayweather 2 to finally take place. The world awaits.
     
  12. V10

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    Please elaborate, I'm calling bullshit on that. All we got was Arum screaming Fight Off. No expert has come out saying 24 days is good enough to detect PED use. It was just Arum's play and you fell completely for it. It would have been as if Schaefer had came out screaming Fight Off! Manny a coward! We proposed cutting back the last random test from 1 day to 4 and Manny didn't accept! He rejected fight! Coward! We fighting Malignaggi next!

    And then all the groupies/haters united repeating without questioning once what's going on Manny coward! Floyd tried to make the fight but Manny rejected! He cheats! Coward!

    See the truth man, if they really wanted to compromise they would take the 14 day offer. Just fucking take it, compromise. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHING will happen, you'll be fucking fine. Don't pretend you compromise by throwing a lame offer you know they won't accept just to happily call the fight off and look elsewhere. Hell there's a fucking quote from Manny days ago where he's talking about how he'll beat Foreman. Does this look like a man who wants to compromise and make the fight happen?

    Fucking see the truth. Floyd is acting like a spoiled brat as well like I said before but all you Pacquiao fanatics piss me the fuck off with your blindness and stupidity on the subject.
     
  13. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    From no testing within 30 days to 24 days was Manny's compromise. Floyd would not take it. He was not willing to bend in any way. Floyd is the one making unfounded accusations and demands that are clearly out of the ordinary. How can you really fault Manny?
     
  14. V10

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    Then you don't understand the word compromise.

    They didn't compromise, they played their game really nice to have people like you believing they did this huge compromise thus showing they wanted the fight and Floyd is the one running away.

    The fight is there to be made. Just meet Floyd on the middle.

    Easy.
     
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    Sorry pal, but Manny has EARNED the right to the benefit of the doubt by almost single handedly carrying the sport for the last two years, seeking out new challenges, fighting the best and beating them in spectacular fashion before seeking new challenges.

    Floyd, on the other hand, has retired rather than fight any one of about EIGHT legitimate challengers for his supposed 147 title, instead sitting on his ass, wasting his best years, while these guys have fought and beat each other almost to a standstill. Then he returns, fights JMM some 12lb (being generous) above JMM's best weight, bores the life out of everyone by carrying a man who simply couldn't hurt him for 12 stolid rounds, proclaims himself the best because he has never lost (fat chance of that since he stopped fighting legitimate challenges a LONG time ago) and then declaring that he doesn't want to fight Manny unless he accepts a completely new change of rules because 'The best PED's are from the Phillipines"... :shit:

    In ONE fight at 147, Manny has SHIT all over Floyd's 'reign' at that weight. One fucking solitary fight...

    This is the truth and it is why the vast majority of the boxing world is giving Floyd the cold shoulder. He's had enough chances: more than he arguably deserves, and he has fucking blown the lot.

    Fuck Floyd Mayweather. The man is a cancer to the sport of boxing.

    MTF :flip:
     
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    :bears: All it takes is Manny publicly agreeing to test 14 days prior to the fight and it's on. Fuck shake.
     
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    Yeah but that may not give Manny enough time to roid-up in the weeks leading up to the fight...:dunno:
     
  18. *Z*

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    Funny, Floyd fans only have a baseless accusation to cling to.
     
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    There's a few Mayweather supporters that refuse to throw in the towel lol

    GIVE IT UP !!!!
     
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    In reality both promoters can line their pockets by matching their own fighters and have some incentive to keep floyd-pac from happening. Floyd and Mosley are GBP guys, and then you have Arum who can match Pac with his own guys Clottey and Foreman.

    plus the rift between DLH/May & Arum runs deep.

    i still say the fight happens in 2010 - i think both fighters will be shamed into it.
     
  21. *Z*

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    And one who ran off. REED has been absent the last couple days. :lol:
     
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    golden boy promotions would be morons to prefer mosley - pacquiao instead of mayweather jr - pacquiao. ridiculous suggestion.
     
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    So Because REED has Found BETTER Ways to Occupy his Time than by Arguing w/BLIND PAC SAC Swingers/CHILDISH Floyd HATERS, that Means REED has "Ran Off"???....Get the Fuck OUT of here w/that PEDquiao Loving BULLSHIT...If the Motherfucker was CLEAN, he Could've CALLED Floyd's Bluff 2-3 WEEKS AGO....



    REED:hammert:
     
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  25. Black Market Baby

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    There doesn't need to be a fucking compromise, and yet Pac already tried to compromise anyway. The norm, the status quo, doesn't include a blood test at all. Floyd decides that he wants to make up his own rule, with no basis for it, and here we are. Pac should have just told Floyd to fuck off.
     
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    I can't believe that there are still people defending Potentially Gay Fraud. How can anyone defend this cunt that has ducked every real challenge for the past couple of years?
     
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    That's not necessarily true. It could be true, the fact is nobody knows if he does take roids or not. All we know is he has no official history of taking steroids. And Floyd does, for his hands.

    Like Jake said, Manny was playing "big dick" with Floyd, and didn't want to bow to every whim, probably didn't want to be seem to be pushed around before they even start training.

    There could also be some truth to what Jake suggested about neither side really wanting the fight in March. Afterall 2 months, for all the promotion, training etc for one of the biggest fights in boxing history? It would be optimistic to say the least. So it could have just been a lot of posturing on both sides.
     
  29. mikE

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    If you were Pacquiao, would you have told Floyd to fuck off?
     
  30. mikE

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    Give Manny some credit. Why would you think he would be such a bitch as to let something as insignificant as Floyd's request get to him?

    If he was innocent, that is.
     

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