Pacquiao vs Margarito after Clottey

I have read this now a couple of times: Margarito will be fighting in the undercard of Pac vs Clottey and that Arum wants Margarito as Pac's next opponent (ruling out any posibility of a Floyd-Pac fight).

Your thoughts on this possible bout.

 

Disgusting. Plasterito shouldn't be allowed to fight again, let alone get a huge payday against Pacquiao.

I mean it would be quite fun to see Plasterito get the absolute shit kicked out of him again I guess, but I would rather he was just banned, or confined to fighting in gentlemen's clubs in Mexico for Enchiladas.

However, I don't buy it, I don't think the fight happens.

 

If so, Arum is clearly looking after his OWN interests before the interests of Pac. 2 Stupid ass fights in a row just because Arum gets to pocket the full promotional purse? I'd be surprised & dissapointed if Freddie Roach didn't kick up fuck for that.

 

Well it looks like it will happen!

"Manny wants to fight Margarito, " Roach said. "Manny thinks he can out-box him. Margarito is a big welterweight. He'd have a lot of advantages physically, but Manny doesn't really worry about that. I don't know but he believes he can beat him."


"If he (Margarito) looks good on the Texas card, a major match at the same stadium later would be Pacquiao-Margarito," Arum said. Pacquiao will fight Joshua Clottey in a welterweight bout expected to attract 40,000.

-Los Angeles Times
January 22, 2010

 

I'm telling you, they don't want Mayweather. Never did.

 

This is stupid, margarito should be banned for life. Arum must have some sort of man-crush on him. I'd rather watch Margarito against Pavlik.

 

Maybe Arum didn't, but I bet Manny did.

 

I've said it all along: Margarito is a poor man's Baldomir.
If Manny is intent on avoiding Mayweather (as witnessed by his absolute refusal to agree to a clean fight), he should at least fight Carlos himself, and not a poor copy. This is a disgrace.

 

On the other hand, Floyd is fighting the guy that beat the living shit out of the cheater.

Classy stuff from Arum.

 

PBF already defeated a better version of Margarito (Baldomir) and now he's going to defeat the man who beat the living shit out of Cheatarito. artie:

 

Arum is trying to make as much money as he can. That's how he does business. He never wanted Cotto to fight PBF that was painfully obvious. He only wanted Margarito to fight PBF during the Shotgun Gomez days when he couldn't even sell out a 1,000 seat ballroom.

 

right.......thats why Pacquiao moved up to 147 destroyed the two best opponents in Mayweather resume with ease and then stayed around a beat Miguel Cotto.....and was looking forward to fighting MOSLEY...


Pacquiao beating Cotto, fighting Clottey and looking ahead towards Mosley FORCE Mayweather to step up his competition....he could not get away w/ fighting Malignaggi, Campbell or have a European tour fighting the Matthew Hatton's of the world...

 

Floyd is getting upped faster than Sonny Black.

 

:dunno:

 

Hatton was already ruined by PBF. Don't forget that.

Cotto was an Arum fighter. That's the whole reason for that fight. Don't get it twisted.

PBF didn't come back to fight Matthew Hatton or Malignaggi, he could have fought them instead of JMM. He came back and destroyed a guy that went tooth and nail with Pacquiao twice.

He came back for the winner of Pac/Cotto.

 

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WHY is there a DELAY in the fight announcement and WHY does Mayweather insist in a rematch clause?

Because in the case he loses, Mosley won't hesitate to fight Pacquaio. He'll sign the contract in the blink of an eye, leaving Mayweather twisting in the wind.

If Mosley wins, Mayweather wants to spend the whole year fighting Mosley. What's Pacquiao to do but to fight another Arum fighter?

 

Maybe Pacman simply doesn't think Floyds chances are so great in his upcoming fight.

 

I agree with MWS who said Margarito should not be fighting again, ever. At least not in the US where he tried to get away with something that greatly increases the chances of your opponent ending up permanently harmed or DEAD.

Worse yet he may get a hefty payday. I think Pac needs to wait for Mosley/Mayweather before he lines up his next NEXT fight (assuming he beats Clottey). If Mosley wins it gives Pac a chance to take on Shane, who will be seen as his greatest challenge at 147, and he can avoid getting into more crap with Floyd in negotiations. Win-win for Pac.

If Floyd wins, then Pac can consider whether or not he wants to try again for maybe even a BIGGER fight with Floyd, or to take on someone else at that time. If that happens and Pac/Floyd still can't be made, I don't really have a big problem with a Margarito fight from strictly a "quality opponent" standpoint. Who else is left? Berto? Move up to 154?

And I also think that Margarito is a live opponent for Pac. He's big, has good range, has had a great chin (except against Shane...), and has excellent stamina. If it wasn't for the question mark concerning how good he really is sans-concrete, I might say I favor Margarito in this fight if it's at 147. Conventional boxing knowledge tells me that the little guy who has moved up numerous divisions will eventually take on someone just too big, and lose. It's astounding that Pac is in there knocking out these guys.

 

I've never understood the decision for boxing fans to treat fighters who cheat different. Not different from those who don't, but they even are as so ignorant as to cast certain cheaters out, while forget others....and they all have their great 'reasons' why.

 

:: Who the hell is this guy?

 

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In that case, make sure you don't give Floyd any credit if he beats Mosley.

Mosley was ruined by Vernon and Winky and Cotto you see.

 

mosley has never been knocked out in his life, sir

 

And if somehow Mosley is still standing when the final bell rings, it'll be only because Floyd deliberately will have left him off the hook.

 

I'm not sure it's a give in that Margarito will even win his next bout. Not only will he be coming in rusty, but apparently his power came from hardened knuckle pads. So without those pads he's probably no better than the bum he's going to be fighting on the Pac-Clottey undercard which in essence makes that fight a toss up.

I also don't see how anyone can give Margarito a chance against Pac. Without his knuckle pads he's easily an easier fight than Clottey and will be nothing more than a tuneup.

Also, Mosley showed the blueprint for beating Margarito: go to the body.

 

And how good is Pacquiao without his performance enhancers?.. One thing we do know is that he'd retire before anybody could find out. He wont fight any welterweight or jr welterweight for that matter without them. Realistically he's a random drug test or company bust away from being a disgraced piece of shit.

 

I couldn't agree more with this.

I have no interest in every watching that disgusting, cheating bastard ever fight anyone ever again. If I ever need to remind myself of who he is and what he was, I can always rewatch the Mosley fight.

MTF:flip:

 

Are you really comparing Pac to Maragrito? Your persistant supposition is reaching new lows.

MTF :shit:

 

I'll even go as far as to criticise Pacquiao if he fights Plasterito.

Instead of giving him credit for fighting a "big, strong welterweight" - I don't think he should have anything to do with Plasterito, nor should any boxing promoters with any moral fibre have anything to do with Plasterito.

Oh and Kauki - when Pacquiao gets caught for taking roids, then let's discuss how good he is with or without roids :)

 

It's useless with Kauki. I once asked him how good Margarito would be, if he wasn't a fraud, and he absolutely refused to discuss the topic with me, screaming and yelling something about "Margarito is great, Floyd is avoiding Margarito, Margarito is an excellent fighter, etc, etc....".
Of course, when it turned out that Margarito is the same kind of fraud as Abdula or Zoo, Kauki refused to discuss the matter of Cheatarito entirely.