When Manny Pacquiao was still a Super-Featherweight and Juan Diaz was an undefeated Lightweight I remember having thsi discussion with a couple "flat-foreheads" on this site and told them that I'd pick Pacquaio and probably by KO. "However" The general opinion on this site (from the people that have no boxing wisdom or foresight) was that Juan Diaz would be too "Big" and "Strong" for Manny Pacquaio. I countered... "Diaz isn't taller, or rangier than Pacquaio and he doesn't hit harder and so what the fuck does this 'size advantage" mean?" The low foreheads responded (based upon no evidence, mind you).. "Diaz will be stronger on the inside and will manhandle Pacquiao...basically sly he's too big for Manny and will beat him handily" Personally, I'm sure Xplosive was one of them....but I digress... My point is.. WHAT SAY YE NOW? Who wins and how?
Diaz will be stronger on the inside and will manhandle Pacquiao...basically sly he's too big for Manny and will beat him handily.
Pac will pull out a win, but will struggle badly with Diaz' size and will probably find it hard to discourage Diaz from ploughing forward. Pac's frame is basically small for featherweight, lightweight is a bridge too far for him, though the gulf in class over a guy like Diaz will allow him to pull this one out.:cheer: So anyway....what exactly is your point here Sly?
Glad you asked. I'm proving that most fightbeaters are bandwagoners....they never see the potential in a fighter until he's made the accomplishments. Manny moves up and beats guys at lightweight, jnr welterweigth and welterweight and now EVERYONE ON HERE will say that he would have beaten Juan Diaz. before that...most would have picked Diaz. TRUE WISDOM is knowing something before having to experience it. I wise man doesn't have to fall into a hole before knowing that it'll hurt. That's what makes me sick about most fightbeaters (and boxing fans in general) Anyone should have been able to see..after manny destroyed Morales at Superfeatherweight that he would have beaten Juan Diaz at lightweight. Why the FUCK do people need to see Pacman do well at the heavier weight s before they realize. For example... Pacman destroys barrera in the first fight and everyone says that barrera is shot. I knew Barrer wasn't fucking shot..I just knew he couldn't beat pacman..Pacman was just that good. Barrera rebounds and beats Morales..and everyone says that barrera is now back. he NEVER LEFT!! Anyway..just illustrating a point. Y'all may not get it......
I'll rather do a search on Taylor-Pavlik topics. Look, you might have gotten this correct. So what, even I picked Pacquiao over Diego Corrales way back. There is no shame if Manny Pac's punch resistance and effectiveness as a puncher has come to some as surprise. Say btw. did you pick Manny to lose to Erik Morales after seeing them both against Barrera?
Btw I did do the search and this one is the only Diaz vs Pac topic around. Which one is your alias? http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31322&highlight=Juan+Diaz
I picked Manny to beat Morales. He lost. But I always felt that he only lost because of teh early cut and the "pillow" gloves. In the rematches...they went exactly as I thought teh first fight would go.
Sly, if you're seriously saying that you foresaw Pac, who looked undersized in the first Morales fight, going on to do what he's done, then you're a liar. And if you're using Pac, a weight skipping phenom without a single parallel in boxing HISTORY as a useful case study in the prediction skills of fightbeaters or yourself then all you're doing is throwing your ability to construct a relevant polemic into question. If you had more faith in Pac than some others and foresaw that he would handle the step up to lightweight then due credit to you, but the dude had only fought a bunch of blown up featherweights/super bantamweights at 130 and had looked undersized & bullied against Morales in the first one so it was hardly based on any useful evidence.
I would have selected Diaz at the time. I would pick Pacquiao now. Fun fight. Diaz would go down swinging.
