Belfort injured, out of UFC 112

The way you defend the UFC PPV cards prove otherwise. The whole 2009 year was a subpar year for matchups and 2010 is going down that path.

 

Anderson wanted to fight Mir. He crushed a legit top ten light heavy in Forrest Griffin. He would have faced a top five guy in Belfort.

I think his comp is ok, but it would be interesting to see him face someone like Rashad or Brandon Vera.

 

Oh...so you're just making shit up. Ok.


And by the way, if you think the next few months aren't loaded with great fights, then you really are clueless when it comes to MMA.


TFK

 

Wandy/Bisping--even match up but for the wrong reasons since Silvia is shot and Bisping is becoming gunshy

GSP vs Hardy? are you shitting me???

Machida/Shogun 2-is only good because Machida had a tough time the first time out and arguably lost. Before the first fight, no one was hyped up for that fight.

I like a lot of the undercard matchups but a lot of it is due to parity in the sport. The main events are not worthy of shelling out $50.00.

 

Wandy\Bisping, if anything, should be a fun fight. Wandy is long past it, and Bisping will never have it to lose, but still, it should be fun while it lasts.

GSP\Hardy looks like a mismatch on paper, and probably will be in the octogon too. But still worth watching.

A lot of fans were hyped up for Machida\Shogun, I'm not sure where you got that from. The rematch should be good.

As for what you forgot...

-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-5-1; #4 Heavyweight) vs. Cain Velasquez (7-0; #5 Heavyweight)
-Keith Jardine (15-6-1) vs. Ryan Bader (10-0)
-Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic (25-7-2) vs. Ben Rothwell (30-7)
-Jon Jones (9-1; #10 Light Heavyweight) vs. Brandon Vera (11-4)
-Junior Dos Santos (10-1; #6 Heavyweight) vs. Gabriel Gonzaga (11-4)
-Frank Mir (13-4; #3 Heavyweight) vs. Shane Carwin (11-0; #8 Heavyweight)
-Jon Fitch (21-3; #2 Welterweight) vs. Thiago Alves (16-6; #3 Welterweight)
-Ricardo Almeida (11-3) vs. Matt Brown (11-7)
-Kenny Florian (12-4; #4 Lightweight)* vs. Takanori Gomi (31-5)
-B.J. Penn (15-5-1; #1 Lightweight) vs. Frankie Edgar (11-1; #9 Lightweight)
-Matt Hughes (43-7; #5 Welterweight) vs. Renzo Gracie (13-6-1)
-Josh Koscheck (14-4; #4 Welterweight) vs. Paul Daley (23-8-2; #5 Welterweight)
-Rashad Evans (14-1-1; #2 Light Heavyweight)* vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson (30-7; #4 Light Heavyweight)*
-Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (18-3; #7 Light Heavyweight)* vs. Forrest Griffin (17-6; #8 Light Heavyweight)*
-Tyson Griffin (14-2) vs. Evan Dunham (10-0)


Now I'm sure you're gonna cry because some of the fights listed feature fighters that are past their prime, or aren't contendors, or the fights have no title implication, and that's true. But a fight doesn't need any of that to be interesting or entertaining. If you're not looking forward to most, if not all of these fights, then you're not an MMA fan, which clearly you aren't.

And that's not even listing Strike Force, WEC, Dream, Bellator, etc.

TFK

 

Shogun didn't deserve a title shot against Machida at the time. Also what part of

says that I'm not an MMA fan? I go to bars and watch the fights all of the time. I even got suckered in to the Couture/Coleman matchup which was utter garbage before, during and after. I will watch all free UFC events but there isn't a $50 UFC PPV since 100 that I would have thought worthy enough to pay for. The BJ Penn/Diego Sanchez PPV would have been the one if any. The fact that it is already UFC 111 is troubling. That's nearly 11 PPVs that I didn't order because of the lackluster main event.

 

Also, looking at the records of your fight list is disgusting. I wish boxing was afforded the same luxury where fighters can have 7 losses and be considered elite. The sport would be doing much better.

 

If all the best guys fought eachother everyone would have losses. My biggest complaint about boxing is the fact that an undefeated record means so much. We have guys like Mayweather to thank for this.

 

Joe does have a point here guys. Dana really is starting to organize too many events. 2 shows/month is really watering the sport down and creating weaker cards. 1 show per month would be much better in order to ensure stacked cards every show.

 

That's the thing. In boxing, most fighters will fight 20+ times before facing someone who even has a pulse. That generally doesn't happen in MMA.

TFK

 

In fact, that almost NEVER happens in MMA. Having a loss in MMA doesn't hurt your career because of the volitility of the sport as well as fighters aren't protected like Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. per say.

 

so it's silva vs. maia at ufc 112.

 

Such a mismatch.

 

This has to be voted the most moronic post in MMA Forum history.

As already mentioned, MMA promotion, and UFC specifically, never avoid making the top guys fight. They are not afraid to see their stars defeated.

And by the way, tell me which of the guys on TFK's list that have 7 loses and considered among current elite fighters? I'm curious who you rank among the elite...

Rampage is the only guy with 7 loses that I would even come close to considering an elite fighter at this point. Truth is, he really might not be.

 

Do you think Marquardt is kicking himself even harder now...

 

Have you taken into consideration the parity of the sport?

Sure, the best may be fighting each other more often, but that doesn't mean that the difference in class between elite/middle of the pack is that great. In boxing there are huge differences in skill level. PBF/JMM is a prime example and they are at the TOP of the sport!

I give the UFC credit for hyping up every single fighter regardless of win/loss record. It insures success for them. When you combine that with a young fanbase that is anxious for blood and guts regardless of the skill level, you get success.

 

Like I just wrote above, it's because of parity in the sport.

 

Do you even know what you are talking about? There is just as big class difference. Did you happen to see silvas last fight? Penn's? Fedor's? GSP's? Your argument is way off man.

 

I totally agree that Penn, GSP, and Silva have strangleholds over their respective divisions but all have been beaten soundly before (multiple times) and by non-elite fighters.

 

For the one thousandth time. Apples and oranges. Completely diferent sports. In MMA there are many different ways to lose a fight, and is a constantly evolving sport. Bottom line, it is a lot easier to lose in MMA due to it's more brutal nature. Therefore losses are more frequent than in Boxing. Not to mention more aggressive matchmaking.

 

Serious injuries are more likely to occur after one boxing match than one MMA fight due to the concentration of punches to the head. MMA has more ways to win/lose a fight. That's obvious, but the danger in boxing is much worse in regards to a single fight. There are a lot of factors like the primary targeting of the opponent's head, hand wrapping and glove size that go into why this is so.

So you don't think the UFC's marketing has any bearing on win/loss records being widely accepted to the average fan in comparison to boxing?:dunno:

I think boxing could use some of that and consider fighters with a few recent losses as still being elite.

 

For fuck's sake, this is such a tired arguement.ld:

 

Meia/Silva is an interesting fight to me. Obviously Meia knows Silva wants it standing and Silva knows Meia wants the submission. Who will be able to impose their will/gameplan on the other? I see it this way. Meia is no takedown master. I see Silva being able to shuck away most of all of his attempts to get him to the mat. Silva should be able to keep his distance and pick him apart. Except for a suprise submission via leg sweep to heel hook or a possible flying armbar I see Silva winning this one on his feet. Because of the backlash on Meia's countryman Leitas for fighting like a bitch, I expect Meia to try to engage a bit on his feet, he will probably have a bit of confidense after his win over Miller in 109. Bad news for Meia, TKO round 4. Could be a bit of a snoozer for a while as both guys keep distance. Any one else have a different take?opcorn:

 

Silva/Maia will be a boring fight. I'm glad it's on an undercard.

 

Despite his own BJJ, I think Anderson proved against Leites that he doesn't really want to roll with another highly regarded black belt.

So I think you're dead on. I don't think Anderson will want to go to the mat and I doubt Maia will be nearly as aggressive as he was against Dan Miller. The end result is that it will be a difficult fight to watch possibly until someone tires.

 

he did score that great takedown on great wrestler Sonnen and finished him.

 

Fuck you Gatti!:fightme: Why you gotta talk shit? Quit bustin my balls!