Pacquiao Wants Mayweather So Badly, Says Roach

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  1. KaukipRrr

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    Pacquiao Wants Mayweather So Badly, Says Roach

    By Mark Vester

    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=25547

    Trainer Freddie Roach says WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao wants a piece of Floyd Mayweather Jr. in the worst way. Pacquiao wants to pay Floyd back for all of the comments the Mayweather clan had made that attacked his characted by connecting him to performance enhancing drugs.

    "Manny is really upset about what Mayweather said about him. He tried to defame his character. I've never seen Manny dislike somebody before in my life. He shows me how he'd beat Mayweather. He immitates Mayweather. He knows what he's all about and Mayweather I don't see it he was great at one time but he's slipped alot. He struggled with Oscar. He struggled for 6 rounds with Ricky Hatton. Pacquiao destroyed both guys and didn't lose a second of either round, I just don't see it.," Roach told the Leave it in The Ring Radio Show.

    Roach told the radio hosts a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight will happen, but only if Floyd drops his demand for Olympic style drug testing. Pacquiao has to beat Joshua Clottey on March 13. Mayweather has to beat Shane Mosley on May 1.

    "He wants Mayweather so badly. They both have to win their fights of course. The thing is we're not gonna give Mayweather any edge at all though. He wants Olympic style drug testing, all this bulls**t. We're not gonna give him nothing because if you give him something he become bigger than the commision, bigger than the sport, it's like giving the first 2 rounds away," Roach said.

    "We'll go by the Nevada Comission rules, by the sanctioning body rules and that's the rules we're gonna go by. If he doesn't want to fight us [under] those rules then he can go fight some girl."

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    I'm afraid all this tells us is that the insistence to take performance enhancers is just too strong for the fight to occur.
     
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    Roach should consult with Pacquiao before opening his mouth about what Manny wants.

    Roach was yapping about "Manny has no problems with any blood tests as long as it isn't within 5 days" or something like that, a short time-span of a few days, and then Pacquiao refuses any within 24 days.

    Roach also doesn't help Manny out when he says things like "for a world champ Hatton was not very good" or talking about how drained and shot Oscar was and then later gets mad when Pacquiao doesn't get full credit for his wins.
     
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    In some ways I don't mind Roach, but I agree with your post.
     
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    Admit it, Erratic.
     
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    That Pacquiao's dirty? I've always said I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he were on something.

    I don't think highly of the "honesty" and "integrity" of pro sports and its competitors.
     
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    "Wouldn't be suprised" is too hesitant given the insurmountable tangtental evidence. Even these pathetic tactics from Roach and Arum have got to add up.

    Call it,.... call it,... :crafty:
     
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    So nothing has changed.

    Neither party will give in on the drug testing now. It would be too much of a concession, & PBF wanting the lions share of the purse further facillitates the fight not happenning.

    If these guys fight each other it will be when both are in serious decline. Another one of those "..years too late" fights.
     
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    I hope Clottey upsets Manny
     
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    Question why isn't Manny/Roach focusing on Clottey. I mean damn I would hate for Manny to be over looking Clottey and fuck around and lose cause he got PBF on his mind. Just shut the fuck up do your thing on March 13th and after that then you can talk about how much you want PBF or that you will fight him for a winner take all type of purse. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    I agree.
    For me Clottey is a VERY live underdog.
    I would be way more surprised to see PBF lose against SSM than Pac against Clottey.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Why would you consider the biggest choker at Welterweight this side of Judah such a live underdog fighting what you consider the best fighter of the world?
     
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    Ouch.
     
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    Wow, Roach is full of shit. The disturbing thing is I'm not even sure he's lying I think he's like the least principled politicians, he changes his opinions and beliefs with the wind of expedience.
     
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    Indeed. Roach just looks and sounds more and more stupid with each time he opens his mouth.

    MTF :lol:
     
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    Pacman is going to win. He is simply better than Clottey, in another league basically.

    Clottey is no scrub though, he is tough, a natural welterweight, and can fight.

    Pacman is a winner though, and Clottey is a choker, so Pacman winning is pretty obvious.

    But yeah, he still needs to take Clottey seriously.
     
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    Because he's the biggest & possibly strongest guy Pac has fought.

    To be honest, I thought DLH would be too big & strong for Pac, & I suspected that Cotto would be as well, so I'm on a losing streak with this line of thinking.

    PBF is happy to pot-shot & stink to win when facing a bigger, stronger guy, whereas Pac, although I consider him faster than PBF is more of a fighter. He would not be happy to try & do enough to just "not lose". He would try to win-engage.

    I see PBF "not losing" fairly comfortably against SSM.
    I see Pacman "trying to win" against Clottey, & therefore the "bigger, stronger guy" aspect playing more of a role.

    Incidently, this is why I see Pac as so dangerous for PBF-SP, at least as fast/ won't be discouraged or potshotted to death/ will make PBF fight.
     
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    I'm not sure where this perception of Clottey as a huge, strong welterweight comes from.

    He didn't look significantly bigger or stronger than Cotto when they fought.

    Both guys are natural welters, but certainly not big welterweights. Average sized welters at best.

    All Clottey has on Pacquiao is size - and as we've seen, due to Pacquiao's style and freakish speed and power, the size advantages that welterweights have over him have proven to be insignificant.

    But I totally agree with the rest of your post 100%. I've been describing Floyd's style for years as "fighting not to lose" rather than fighting to win. IE doing whatever it takes just to win enough rounds to keep that 0, however boring and defensive it is.

    And yep, Pacquiao wouldn't just get pot shotted into bolivian. He's faster than floyd, aggressive, and unpredictable. Fuck I hope the fight happens. Unfortunately as you said, it'll probably end up happening once they are both past their best.
     
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