Klitschkos & Heavyweight Stranglehold

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  1. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/7803/klitschkos-heavyweight-stranglehold/

    Klitschkos & Heavyweight Stranglehold

    By David A. Avila

    No other weight division in professional boxing is in as thick of a mess as the much ballyhooed and nothing to do heavyweight division.



    The big boys just aren’t doing it.



    Because Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko hold three of the major world titles the division has sunk into a virtual debutante façade where the brothers are eager to fight in Europe against fellow Europeans or inexperienced Americans.



    They’ve fooled the entire world the past several years.



    Young Wladimir Klitschko has Eddie Chambers in front of him in a fight scheduled for next week. That’s actually a step up from his brother. Years ago it was Vitali who was challenging all comers, now it’s Wladimir.



    What happened?



    I remember when Vitali was hungry and chasing then world champion Lennox Lewis. He chased and chased and through a stroke of luck when an opponent fell out there was Vitali to step in. That fight was one of the best heavyweight bouts in the last 20 years.



    Since that day in 2003 the elder Klitschko has evaded two Americans in particular while fighting carefully selected victims. One of the Americans he avoided was Evander Holyfield and the other James Toney.



    Now readers are going to say those guys are irrelevant. But we’re talking about the last 10 years not just this year and last year. Basically the Klitschkos have run away from challenges much like Vitali did against Chris Arreola when they fought. Yes, he won the fight. But I don’t ever remember him fighting that way against any other fighter.



    “I’ve been chasing the Klitschkos too long,†said Toney by telephone. “Everybody says they can kick my butt so why don’t they fight me then?â€



    That makes sense. You would think if a fighter knew he could win easily and make more money than fighting a relatively unknown heavyweight it would be an easy choice.

    Remember. This has been going on for almost 10 years.



    Maybe I’m picking on Vitali too much, but I have my reasons. When he fought Lewis at the Staples Center with more grit and guts than I had seen since Holyfield and Riddick Bowe’s collisions, it made me a big proponent of the big Ukrainian. He was a crowd pleaser. He’s no longer that hungry fighter. He wants the easy fights now.



    Let’s look at Wladimir.



    First, he has Emanuel Steward training him and the veteran trainer told me way back that someone like Toney was too dangerous. That must be the case because when Toney battered Hasim Rahman in July 2008 it must have really substantiated what Steward had always said: “James Toney is too dangerous.â€



    Sure enough, five months after Toney beat up on Rahman, it was Rahman who was chosen by Wladimir Klitschko to fight.



    Of the two brothers it has been Wladimir who is taking more challenges especially in fighting Chambers on March 20.



    “We got Eddie Chambers fighting Wladimir and if he wins it opens up a whole new horizon for Manny Quezada and some of our other heavyweights,†said Dan Goossen, president of Goossen-Tutor Promotions who has Toney, Arreola, Quezada and Chambers.



    Wladimir Klitschko has fought Ruslan Chagaev, Sultan Ibragimov and Lamont Brewster to name a few. Those names aren’t familiar unless you’re a die hard boxing fan, but all are experienced former world champions. Chagaev was a world champion when they fought.



    Both brothers could have and still could pump life into the heavyweight division if they choose. They won’t fight each other so why not fight the fights that are dangerous? There is still time. In May big brother Vitali Klitschko is fighting Albert Sosnowski in Germany.



    Who is Sosnowski?



    He’s the guy who lost to Zuri Lawrence in 2008.

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  2. Irish

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    Ah yes...Evander Holyfield, the most avoided man since 2003.:shit::shit::shit:

    By the way, what are the "fights that are dangerous"

    What are these fights?
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    That is the worst article I have ever read. They bitch about who the Klits fight yet all they can offer as far as who they should have fought is Holyfield and Toney?

    Sounds like something Dymipeple wrote.
     
  4. dymipepel

    dymipepel Im Banned

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    Are you an imbecile?
    For many years, I've told everyone who quitko should fight....
    The guy who defeated Rahman (unlike Quitaly, who refused to fight Rahman on 4 separate occasions)
    The guy who defeated McCline (unlike Quitaly, who refused to fight MCline on 7 separate occasions)
    The guy who defeated Valuev twice (unlike Quitaly, who refused to fight Valuev on 11 separate occasions)
    The guy who's going to fight Haye (unlike Quitaly, who refused to fight Haye).

    Vitaly built a career on Ruiz's leftovers (often unsuccesfully). He should step up and fight Ruiz, if quitko's career to have any meaning.
     
  5. Bob N Weave

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    Avila is bitter that there are no Mexicans in the heavyweight picture. He got a hard on when Arreola was fighting for the title. That hard on disappeared so fast that you would have thought he saw Rosie O'Donnell naked or something.
     
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  6. Irish

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    Rosie O'Donnell wouldn't cry.........
     
  7. Bob N Weave

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    She also has smaller tits.
     
  8. meetthefeebles

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    Jesus Christ. That is one seriously poor article...

    MTF :shit:
     
  9. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

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    Kauks... Did you write this shitpile?
     
  10. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I wish,.. but all due credit belongs to that lovely little website thesweetscience.com,.. it's American boxing journalism at it's finest,..

    They're a traumatised bunch who contradict themselves because they cry about the heavyweight division virtually every day, with the message being,.. 'please forget about it, please dont concerntrate on it'..
     
  11. ElTerriblee

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    :lol::lol:

    Yes, I was waiting and waiting for him to actually name these great American challengers. BoxRec Top 10 Americans.

    1 Eddie Chambers 662 35(18)-1(0)-0
    2 Tony Thompson 610 33(21)-2(1)-0
    3 Chris Arreola 519 28(25)-1(1)-0
    4 Ray Austin 428 28(18)-4(2)-4
    5 Fres Oquendo 368 32(21)-5(2)-0
    6 Kevin Johnson 296 22(9)-1(0)-1
    7 John Ruiz 294 44(30)-8(1)-1
    8 Dominick Guinn 280 32(21)-6(0)-1
    9 Manuel Quezada 271 29(18)-4(1)-0
    10 Jason Estrada 264 16(4)-3(0)-0

    Klitschkos STOP DUCKING Manuel Quezada. He deserves another crack at the world title, after his challenge for the WBE world heavyweight title was turned away by 3-17-4 David Johnson via four round unanimous decision. :popcorn:
     
  12. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    The only two "contenders" left are Valuev and Haye and they don't want to fight the brothers Klit.

    If they end up fighting one another, no one can criticize their opponent selection again. Then again, people will probably say they weren't trying to hurt each other.
     
  13. Irish

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    Of the 10 Americans on that list, 5 have already fought a Klitschko, another one {Estrada} lost to Povetlin and Adamek, John Ruiz is fighting the Gaye Maker and the other 3 are bottle pig-poo
     

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