THREE WEAKNESSES IN MAYWEATHER; CAN MOSLEY OR PACQUIAO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM?

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Manny's objective must be to make Mayweather fight at a different tempo. It will bring him out of his comfort zone. Zab Judah did this for the 1st half of their fight and even knocked Floyd down with a right hook in the 2nd. . Mayweather's right hand touched the canvas, but referee Richard Steele missed the call. Zab was beating Floyd to the punch and was fighting at a tempo that Floyd could not handle. Zab fizzled out as the fight went into the last half and Floyd came back and won. Manny has a tsunami like punching style. At times, he throws 8-punch combinations from the southpaw stance at very unorthodox angles. This will befuddle Floyd and could make him fight Manny's fight as Zab Judah did. Floyd will be taken out of his comfort zone.

Thoughts?

 

Yeah, one thought, that Fighthype.com looks like a cool site.

 

:::bears:

 

Pacquiao has no idea on how to cut the ring. Floyd schools him, maybe drops him.

 

Ironically, for all the talk being made about how Floyd has to fight the perfect fight and box masterfully, it is Pacquiao who is going to have to employ a greater deal of artistry and imagination than he has hitherto displayed.

One thing I categorically agree on with Floyd is that every opponent Floyd faced had a gameplan which centered around...pressure, and making Floyd work.

I don't think that works with Floyd.

Castillo aside, nobody bothered Floyd quite like Judah, who swept the first 4 rounds vs Floyd and dropped him, albeit Dicky Steele missed it.

Now, Manny has the speed and he has the Southpaw stance, but does he have the cagey intelligence to force Floyd to come forward when Floyd does not want to????

More importantly, will Freddie Roach extricate his anterior from his posterior for just long enough to see this? I think Freddie is living the life off this Manny hype and may not be as on point as his shaky-ass self needs to be.

 

One thing is for sure Pacman is a hell of alot better then Judah. And we all seen how well Judah did in the first few rounds.

 

Yes.....but Judah followed a certain plan. Will Roach send Pac out with the same plan?

 

Not sure but Roach will devise a master fight plan! That is a guarantee. And unlike Judah, Manny Pac aint getting tired.

 

Marquez could barely touch/catch Floyd and he tagged Pacquiao at will. Floyd will be able to do the same without taking back punishment.

 

huh????

 

Rationale like that doesn't always work in boxing. Because I could counter with "You see how well Marquez did against Manny and Floyd is clearly a hell of a lot better than Marquez."

 

Mayweather had to look for Judah. He won't have to look for Manny. Manny would be crazy to lean back and counter like Judah was doing, that's not his game.

 

Will this even still be an issue when we're forced to sit through Mosley-Floyd II "The Rematch Clause"?

 

End of thread

 

Mosley doesn't have the tools to take advantage of mayweather..but Pacquiao could if he forces Floyd to stay on the ropes.

The more i think about a May0Pac fight though the more i see Floyd winnning surprisingly easily....

Unlike many here..I haven't forgotten the Pac-Morales and Pac-Marquez fights....

 

I haven't forgotten these fights, and I agree that they are very relevant, because both Mayweather and Marquez are superior, boxing counter-punchers.

However, you seem to forget that, for all the countering JMM did against Manny, he still took a serious shellacking in the process, being dropped HARD several times. Marquez came through these fights by virtue of a great chin, tremendous fighting heart and incredible durability. It was these qualities that saw him reach the bell against Floyd, despite being hopelessly outgunned.

Does Mayweather Jr possess these same qualities if, as is likely, Manny lands at least a few of those razor sharp, super fast straight left hands?

I have a sneaking suspicion that he might not and that maybe his chin isn't the best. Admittedly, there is little in the way of concrete evidence to support this, because Floyd has rarely been hit. But he was definitely dropped by Zab, a super quick lefty who is about 1/8th as good as Pacquiao is. I also have a strange feeling that Mayweather might be similar to RJJ, another excellent counter punching fighter who, when he eventually got hit, was found to have hidden a fragile chin all along.

MTF

 

The pedigree would suggest that Floyd's chin is average-good, but not brilliant. Roger, Jeff and Floyd Sr. all got K-T-F-O at some point in their careers. Right now I would say that quasi-legal defence, good skills, hand-picked opponents, superior bargaining power and hand-picked referees play a greater combined role in Floyd's undefeated record than any granite-chin might.

 

hand-picked opponents only after his scary moment vs. Castillo...before that he had fought top fighters.

De La Hoya fight was/is a given, who would not fight DLH for 10-20 million?

Hatton? Good opponent can't really bitch much, until you see/remember that 147 at the time was packed, Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Cintron...sure..sure Hatton might have been the biggest money fight at the time, but Mayweather still didn't fight any of those guys after Hatton...

 

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4:13 one of Pac favorite punches and again at 7:27 Mayweather not stun but stung by the left...


and at 9:33 the Right Hook....this time he was stun and a bit hurt by it...

of course this means fuck all...since Corley/Pac are 2 completely different fighter. AND Mayweather was extra aggressive in that fight and eventually beat the living hell out of Corley. Same evidence was show by some to give Judah a chance vs. Mayweather back when they fought...

 

Good post, I agree.

 

Good Video, PBF was clearly stunned. We haven't seen PBF this aggressive in a long time.

 

He was stunned for 6 secondss. It's because of how aggressive he was being