Any other Roy haters going to be rooting for him Saturday?

Television hasn't taught me what to think about that yet, all I know is that we can't have white's in the country, and we can't have blacks in the city,.. they both megamorphisize into Gremlins in the wrong environments,.. the transition has to happen, so pack Erratic, pack.

 

Fighting De La Hoya at 154 when you've started your career at 130 is equivalent to Roy jones fighting Ruiz at Heavyweight...especially as De La Hoya is much better P4P than Ruiz.

Oh an baldomir and Judah were legit Welterweights, both had been undisputed champions at that weight.

 

I have a feeling Roy is gonna pull out a Hill-Tiozzo II type performance.

 

sarcasm?

 

Floyd is black

MTF

 

AgREED, although the truth of the matter is that Roy has a less than 1% chance of winning on Saturday.

MTF

 

Baldomir is a legit welterweight? Really, do you really believe that?

Now by legit, I don't mean natural, by legit I mean top tier. You seriously think Baldomir is a top tier welterweight?

Judah is/was a very talented fighter, but no he is not legit, he's never been top tier, because he doesn't have the metal fortitude required to be top tier, the focus, the heart, the concentration - all the intangibles and the intelligence, Judah sorely lacks.

Oh and :: :: at your first paragraph. Oscar started his career at lightweight, same as Floyd. Let me just check.

Yep, Floyd's pro debut had him weighing in at 131, Oscar at 133 - a mighty two pound difference ::

 

I'm also a fan of Calzaghe as you can see as well as the Klitschko brothers. They may be black too I guess.....skin lightening cream, nose jobs and relaxer are doing a tremendous job these days...

 

Buster Douglas wasn't arguably a top tier Heavyweight either when Evender beat him...but all you can ask of a fighter in a new weight class is to beat the TRUE champion of that division. Baldomir had beaten Judah (who had beaten Spinks) for the title..and that's just the FACTS my friend.

 

Ah....you fell into a trap. :crafty:

Floyd's career started at 130lbs and Marquez at about 4 pounds lighter ...er, how would you put it....ah yes.... a mighty four pound difference [insert smilie here].

If Floyd get's no credit for beating Marquez when they started their careers close to the same size then you MUST give Floyd credit for beating Oscar at 154lbs. Can't have it both ways...mexi.

 

i always find it funny when someone whos only talent is to talk shit on the internet calls a guy who fights for a living a coward

 

fans criticize professional athletes all of the time even though they know that they (the fan) would stand no chance against them in that particular discipline.

have you never criticized a zab judah or a derrick gainer or someother fighter for one reason or another?

 

You fell into your own trap...

Of JMM's 38 pro fight, 37 have been below welterweight

of those 37 below welterweight, 35 were below lightweight

Floyd hasn't fought below 147 since 2005 and hasn't been at lightweight or below since 2003.

Foolish argument on your part.





Therefore comparing debut weights for these guys is ridiculous.

 

never called them a coward

 

How many times had Floyd fought at 154lbs before he fought and beat Oscar?

In interfering, driven by FLOYD hate, you trapped yourself

 

All i have to say about this fight is that Hopkins is a straight up FAG for going to ends of the earth to fight Roy NOW, yet ducking the fight in 02.

B-Hop knows in his heart that he couldnt take a prime Jones.

 

agreed.

But to be fair...WHO IN HISTORY could have taken a prime Jones?

It's a bad fight for Hopkins..a no win situation.

 

Mike Spinks, Bob Foster, Archie Moore, and Ezzard Charles.

Other then them...... nobody.

 

People like to mention these names...I guess they say it because they were naturally bigger than Roy.....but Roy was MORE TALENTED than any of those guys...comination of speed, power and elusiveness.

I'd pick Roy to have beaten any of them to be honest with you.

 

I cant see Roy's chin handling the firepower of Foster and Spinks. And those two guys had the height, reach, skill, and handspeed to catch Roy eventually.

Below 175 theres not a single fighter I'd pick over Roy h2h. That includes everyone's sometimes "god" Monzon.

 

Floyd fought at 147 two to three years prior to the DLH fight...he weighed in at 150 that night.

How much credit are you giving him for adding that extra three pounds?

Furthermore...

Marquez had what...a total of two fights, two weight divisions below Floyd just prior to their fight...over 90% of his career was spent three or more weight divisions below where he fought Floyd.

Floyd and Oscar were only separated by one division.

Again...your points are ridiculous.

 

what a fucking moronic statement. if Floyd had fought Oscar at 154 immediately after he beat Corrales this would be a valid point. It took him six years to get to 150 from 130.

Lest we not forget...DLH vs May at 154 in 2001 was certainly plausible...Oscar was an active fighter in 2001 (unlike when he fought Floyd in 2007) and was on the cusp of winning a belt at 154 against Castillejo.

But back on point...prior to the Ruiz fight, Roy's previous bout was at 175 THEN he moved to heavyweight.

Seriously dude, if this is the best you've got to offer in defense of Floyd you're better off exiting stage right then coming back fight week. These last few posts of yours have been straight garbage.

Even the worst of the Floydidians won't co-sign to this nonsense you're spouting.

 

I think De La Hoya would've been widely bashed and criticized if he fought Mayweather in 2001. I remember two years later before the Sosa fight when Mayweather said he wanted to fight De La Hoya that most people just laughed at Mayweather and thought it was ridiculous since they were three divisions apart.

Arum talked about it and how it'd make a ton of money due to the family drama but mostly everyone else took it with a grain of salt. Then eventually they do fight and Arum doesn't get any of the money. ::

 

That isn't quite accurate.

1996 - Roy was on the hunt for any respectable opponent. Hopkins was the only one willing, and both fighters were up for the rematch.
The dealbreaker? HBO pushed for Hopkins to dump his alphabet title to fight Roy at a catchweight, without the safety net of a guaranteed return date, win lose or draw.

2000 - Hopkins and HBO finally began to see eye to eye a little more. The rematch was once again back on the table. Hopkins was willing. HBO was also prepared to offer Hopkins a contract where a loss to Roy wouldn't nullify it (though a loss to anyone else, would).
The dealbreaker? Roy worried over how the purse split would go for a rubber match in the event he lost to Hopkins in the rematch, claiming he wasn't accepting 50/50 for a third fight.

2002 - The perfect time for the fight. Roy and Hopkins did their part in the ring and on the mic (60/40, I whoops...).
The dealbreaker? 60/40 was posturing on both sides. Roy was reluctant to move off of 80/20, while Hopkins thought he deserved purse parity on the strength of beating Tito, becoming undisputed MW champ and he and Roy being seen as P4P #1 and 2 by nearly everyone.

2004 - Hopkins was finally a free agent, while Roy wasn't quite up for an immediate Tarver rematch. The two sides actually agreed to terms.
The dealbreaker? The amount of money they expected to split turned out to be twice as much as HBO was willing to put up for the fight.

2004-2009 - Roy kept losing, falling further and further into obscurity.

Late 2009 - Hopkins mistakes Australia for Europe and a knockout for a no-contest, and insists the fight is still on. Roy's dumb/desperate enough to agree to terms that doesn't allow him to get paid until all expenses are paid and Hopkins pockets the first $3.5 million of the pay-per-view upside.

The fight is on.

 

Don't really care who wins, but with Hopkins being shameless enough to take this fight after Jones's fight with Green, I might root for Roy. I just hope the fight is much better than the crappy first bout.

I was getting annoyed with Jones's endless taunting of Lacy during the fight and wanted to see him lose after that. He already has, so I don't care now to see Roy lose again.

 

It'll be the best day, I can ever remember for a boxing weekend,... if Haye and Hopkins are simultaneously knocked out, it does not get any better than that.

 

:notallthere: 's wrong with you?

 

Muzse, bless you dear friend...

but Floyd could beat Superman and you'd come back and say that Superman was past his prime. He wouldn't get credit from you for anything. So why would I even bother to continue to try to make a case for Floyd in any regard with you.

Let you and I stick to a topic where it's possible to reach common ground. Floyd isn't one of them.

 

What time does this start at?