Povetkin's Team Want Klitschko To Pass WADA Drug Tests

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  1. Irish

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    I'm saying there is very little in the line of an accurate description of the substance taken. Did he get kicked off for taking a PED during a training camp? I am requesting a re-definition of the parameters of the failed test, is all I am doing.
     
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    He was kicked off for an "anabolic steroid." Not sure how that could be mistaken for something else.
     
  3. Irish

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    I took anabolic steroids when I was in hospital with asthma as a child. They prevent muscle wasting and keep the trachea clear.

    Did he take PED's?
     
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    PEDs wasn't even a term back then. Which anabolic steroid did you use?
     
  5. Irish

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    Okay then, we know he didn't use PED's.



    Dont know. I was 8. I didn't ask. I was happy just to breath. I didn't foresee this conversation 22 years down the pipe.....
     
  6. IMDAZED

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    Uhh...he tested positive for an anabolic steroid. What the hell??
     
  7. Irish

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    Yes, but did it improve his performance, was it intended to improve his performance, above and beyond his normal, injury-free capabilities??
     
  8. IMDAZED

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    No one can say for sure whether he intended it to improve his performance. But that's what athletes usually take anabolic steroids for. But according to all of them, they do it to heal injuries. Unfortunately - if that is actually the case - that doesn't make it right either.
     
  9. Irish

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    The steroid is useless unless it is ingested in circumstances conducive to it's intended effect, viz. dose, training regime, cycle length, oral vs intravenous etc.

    It does appear that Vitali did not take the steroid as part of a programmed designed to give him a physical advantage his otherwise healthy body was normally bereft of.
     
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    According to who? Vitali? Obviously it was part of some program since he tested over the allowable amount.
     
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    Most claim his book as the source of the info. We might not have even know it ever happened if he didn't write about it. I'm not making excuses, I'm just fucking posting what I read about it. So don't get your fucking panties in a wad.
     
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    You should really try to think more about the future man.
     
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    I'm pretty sure I know what you mean, but how can any of us really be sure?
     
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    Umm you taking a steroid to help you breath as an 8y/o is not exactly the same as an athlete competing. This ain't even a good comparison. But good try though. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    :crafty: lol, knew the Irishman would come out swinging in this thread. I think it's pretty clear Wlad understands what it's like to be an ambassador for an ethical cause,..and I'm pretty sure he understands what strong and sophisticated testing means for the sport that he reips the most benefits out of,.. and I'm sure if he's clean, he wouldn't want to face a supernaturally charged up revolting cheat,.. so really,.. what clean fighter would object?.. seeing as it's an implementation that protects him aswell?..

    Povetkin is obviously intimidated with taking his mandatory shot, as evidenced by his withdrawals and previous actions in waiting on his mandatory position for years, but this is an awesome little question, it will give him a legitimate 'out' if Wlad were to refuse, because a fighter who requests a mutually clean fight, has the right to do so, however if Wlad accepts,..it helps to prove him as a clean champion, much praise to him,..and then if Povetkin withdraws as a result of Wlad's willingness to comply,.. ok,.. you're a scared bitch, trying to weasel out of the fight and save face at the same time. OWNED.
     
  16. Irish

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    Wasn't Povetkin supposed to fight Chagaev and hurt his ankle, and somehow fell off the WBA bandwagon and onto the bumpier ride that is the IBF Express??
     
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    :crafty: Tick Tock Tick Tock Tick Tock,..........
     
  18. Irish

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    Silence Of the Povetkins......
     
  19. KaukipRrr

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    :crafty: Awaiting Wlad's answer, awaiting, awaiting,...
     
  20. Irish

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    .....Wlad has bad skin, receding hairline, and has looked shaky. By Pac Standards, there is no way he is juicing....:crafty::crafty:
     
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    The only way we can tell is to have him take the random tests! That's the only way we know 100% or close to 100%. I'll Holla 5000
     
  22. Irish

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    Have you raped anyone? Of course not. How would you like to report to the Police and give a sample of DNA anyways? Of course you wouldn't like that. That's not how it works. Povetkin must show cause. Right now, all he is showing are the weasel words of Weasel Atlas.
     
  23. IMDAZED

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    Using this logic, only those who test positive should be tested. Not even standard urine tests. Of course then no one would test positive.
     
  24. Irish

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    One thing is for sure....people should not be tested simply because their mandatory is looking for a way out......
     
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    It sure sounds like that's the case here. But again, it's in his contract.
     
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    Poor example. But if the police came and asked that I provide a sample to then hell yeah I would give one. But that's me cause I don't have shit to hide! I'll Holla 5000
     
  27. Irish

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    If the rape was in Delaware, and you were in Washington State at the time, would you not just tell them that instead?
     
  28. KaukipRrr

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    Now now now Irishman,.. I know Wlad is the victim of many evils,.. but the question proposed is,.. does he indulge in some evils of his own?.. I realise, the probability of you seeing such reason, reminds my situation of a small minority of women, called 'prison groupies' where they take delight in the vainful hope that they can tame a beast of thier own one day, but I dont expect it, it's the 'process' that's the pleasurable bit, as I'm well aware of the result in advance. :crafty:
     
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    [​IMG]I'm still obsessed, if Reed were to ever meet me in real life, he'd be stupid to accept my spiked drink though,.. half of me would want Reed to wake up and punch me between the eyes before I slip the handcuffs on, the other half would be longing for the dark ritual of putting Reed's severed arm in a boiling pot with beans and carrots, I would be in a hybridly excited state while simultaneously bawling my eyes out in a counterbalanced state of regret,.. it would not end so well,.. if Reed leaves me in a beaten and bloody mess,.. I would do the honourable thing,..and inform Reed where I'm hiding Kenneth, because I'm a good sport.
     
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    Time to take the medication Kauks. There's a good lad.
     

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