Why is everybody complaining that UFC fighters are underpaid ?

Joony, mad respect for your knowledge brother. Seriously, you always bring it with your posts and have good shit to bring to the table. But you and I both know that in the world of Combat Sports not many make a consistent living off of it. This is Boxing included. Less that 5% make more than 6 figures off a fight in boxing. Very similar to MMA. I watch local shows monthly and I know many boxers and fighters here in the Pacific Northwest. None of them make enough to NOT have another job. My boy, Santos Pakau made 20,000 dollars to fight Paul Williams on HBO. Fucking HBO. Of course Paul Williams got paid, but they raped Santos. This is just the nature of the beast and you, me, Neil, Z, and everyone else that has any life experience in these sports knows it. Its Brutal. If you are talented and lucky enough to be in that 5%, the life is good. If not, you probably also are a club bouncer to make ends meet.

 

Aren't you the 1 who came at me telling me I don't know shit? Hypocrite. You really seem "special". Oh I guess I will give some of these....::::::

 

Your statement was kind of like you, irrelevant. It was nothing more than trash talk to someone you know nothing about.

 

I was at that fight. He showed great heart. Williams gave him a lot of respect after the fight.

 

No worries, I will call out a bullshit payscale when it's around. Sorry but you aren't relevant to me. I have never posted towards you until you told me I don't know shit. I hear stuff here and there about lots of different stuff. You can think whatever you want though Mr. Irrelevant. Anyways I am done with your irrelevant, shit stirring ass.

 

yea that's exactly what i mean. that 5 percent is truly an exception. but on the other hand, 5 percent of the house hold MMA guys don't make as much as guys like b+ or b level ticket sellers. the business of boxing and UFC are completely different. look at guys like mosley or hopkins. they could fight in empty arenas and generate less than 200k ppv numbers yet still guaranteed of making millions.

but then if UFC were to consistently put top fighters in the same card then there's noway they can dishout millions to several different fighters.

for example, kenny florian is nearly a house hold name for a casual UFC fan at this point. at the end of the day, he's an undercard fighter and how much does he usually make?

fortunately for him, he fights quite often enough to turn his thousnds of dollars into hundres of thousands, but again, he's in that 5 percent of guys who wins on a consistent basis against quality opposition. once he starts losing (which i'm sure he will at some point), his purse will rapidly drop until he ends up fighting on non-televised portion of the card.

 

100k per fight isn't guaranteed unless you're a gsp, penn, randy couture, lidell, or lesnar. and there are FAR less of the aforementioned than your average MMA guy who one day decides to take up on this sport while working full time.

guys that make decent money from MMA don't have day jobs because technically, they're considered celebrities and they get sponsored or have other investments. they are weary of these things that are needed to be done BECAUSE they don't make more than what they think they should.

plus, a lot of these guys also spend a lot. do you think they get to keep most of their purse and just pay off their bills and pay mortgage? unlike your parents who are salary folks, they take the risk of not being able to make 100k or whatever in case they start to lose fights and lose contracts. that would mean, they're getting fired w/ no insurance coverage and other benfits.

what about what they pay trainers (unlike boxing, there are multiple trainers in MMA for striking/grappling/conditioning and etc)? facilities? if they own facilities or a team, do you think all that shit's just paid for?

tie all those things together, to me, fighting only 2-3 times a year (that's the trend for big name fighters these days if you haven't noticed) and making 100k just isn't enough while i'm putting my ass on the line of getting injured or permanately disfigured.

 

do your parent need to pay their manager, trainers and training camp ???? Fighters keep about 60% of their puse money after everyone takes their cut AFAIK ( and then there's taxes but that for everyone ).

 

60k a year might provide enough food, but that's also based on personal and financial circumstances. it also depends on what city or state you live in. if you're in debt, then 60k might not cut it. some are fortunate enough to eat w/ that amount, some barely get by.

what a dumb fucking statement.

anyways, if MMA fighters want to get by w/ earning 100k a year while spending about half of it in expenses with no job security, obviously they are a bunch of dumbasses for choosing such sport as a career.

 

The life of a fighter is pretty expensive when you add everything up. I wonder if MMA fighters get paid to spar like boxers do. I haven't heard much in that regard.

 

I don't think there is a living to be made as a sparring partner in MMA like there is in boxing. There are coaches that get hired but they mostly spar and train with guys within their teams.

 

Cool of you to say that, Joe. Santos is a great guy with nice talent and skills. Just not good enough to be world class. The guy has heart for days. He told me Paul is a really good guy too. Took him to a party after the fight.

 

I'm just curious because I truly don't know the answer. Take a B or B+ level ticket seller. Who do you think of that in boxing Joony? And what do they make, generally speaking of course, for a fight?

 

Give some names and maybe I can find some purse info for them. Would Zab Judah be B level draw? If so he has made over a million on a few fights.

 

That's my question, what is a B level draw in Boxing. I consider B level to be just under title contention.

 

Who the fuck are you? I don't have to prove or disprove shit. You posted some dumb shit to me like you know something. Funny, it says admin under your name. No wonder this board has gone to shit.

Yeah irrelevant.....:laughing:

 

Drawing power doesn't always have much to do with skill. You have to differentiate between the two and go from there.

 

I post here sporadically. Everyday? Things like that can be proven. If you look at my posting history you will see what a fucking liar you are. I am laughing myself to be honest to see a supposed "Admin" try to run someone off who actually knows about MMA (and more about boxing). The truth is you didn't prove anything except that you know how to be a prick and a bitch. You come at someone telling them "they don't know shit". How do you think they are going to reply back you idiot. Anyways, last night I was done for you for then. Now I am done with you and this message board for good. Hope you are proud of yourself "Admin". Oh yeah and the proverbial........:laughing::laughing::laughing:

 

valdosta! Don't go!!! You can't leave!! You've been here for 8 years. We need you here, dude!!!

 

Such a shame to get all worked up over such a worthless topic...

 

That's a good point Joe. Gatti was a good draw, and we all know his skill wasn't on par with most elite fighters. I guess its all subjective anyway.

 

i'd take val's opinions on both boxing or mma over about 90% of the folks here in this forum. he's knowledgeable guy.