THOUGHTS ON THE FIGHT

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  1. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

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    Shane - Where was the disappointment? He was way to happy at the end of the fight, seemed like all he wanted was to be one of Floyd's homies. To be honest it was a dispicable fight and an embarrasment. Shane had Floyd hurt in rd 2 and completely let off the gas.

    This was the worse Shane I ever saw. At moments he actually seemed afraid of Floyd. Some points in the fight he looked sharp as a razor, slipping and blocking shots like in his old days. Other points he looked shot as a 38 year old, gassed to the point where he could barely stand, throwing shots with nothing on them, complaining to the ref. He should retire, he wouldn't have beaten Berto tonight.

    Floyd - I respect his skills. If it was anyone else he fought I'd be pissed at Floyd, but since it was Shane I'm glad he didn't fight any harder than he had to.

    I like how Floyd didn't try to BS that he was hurt in the fight and I totally respect the answer he gave. It happens and you have to be a warrior and fight on. I still expect Floyd to take on easy challenges and not prove himself but I feel Pacquiao needs to accept the tests if he wants the fight. Floyd has set a precedent and if Manny isn't willing to agree to it, then there's no point in Manny even begining the negotiations.
     
  2. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I knew the Shane is old arguments would start immediately. I guess during the 2nd round he was in his prime and rounds 3-12 he was shot.
     
  3. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Mosley hasn't been the same since the 1st Forrest fight, and has been old since the Winky fights....

    but every now and then he would put on a great performance....Vargas Rematch, maybe the Collazo fight then the Margarito fight.

    Against Cotto he was being outbox and outfought at times he rally late a bit but he was still losing rounds, against Jose Luis Cruz he look blahhhhhh, same thing for the DLH rematch and his fight vs. Estrada...
     
  4. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Shane sure did gas quick without the juice.
     
  5. Beyond the Grave

    Beyond the Grave Undisputed Champion

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    Yeah,that's what happens when your old
     
  6. joony

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    or that's what happens when your opponent is a superior boxer.
     
  7. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Or that's what happens when you have to change up your training regiume with the USADA knocking on the door at will.
     
  8. royyjonesjrp4pno1

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    The knocked on Floyds door also :atu:
     
  9. KaukipRrr

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    Yes, but there was no 'restructuring' needed for Fraud's training regiume.

    Did you think I meant that post in a Pacquiao-groupie way?..
     
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    No, I think he just got tired. Clearly he shot his wad in the 2nd round and it's amazing he never recovered any of his stamina.

    Act like you just walked 15 feet; that's how he felt.
     
  11. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

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    They started before the fight. Funnily enough it does become relevant when the fighter in question is close to 40.
     
  12. KaukipRrr

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    That's what he was for Margarito aswell. I don't believe in the immunity aging fighters recieve if in thier last fight in particular they looked as good as ever, beating a top fighter. People have been making Hopkins immuned for years, when at 40+, he's managed to nab his best career wins, when he defeated Pavlik he claimed, 'This was my greatest ever performance' ,..
     
  13. The Genius

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    What immunity? Shane is what 38? He's still fighting so losses still count against him. Just don't act as if his age was not brought up before the fight.

    Let's not labour the point about Hopkins. I think we can safely say that he is the exception, not the rule.
     
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    Fraud beat Shane Mosely,.. the evidence that qualified Mosely as the best possible opponent for Fraud, with Pedquiao withdrawing,.. he was the best out there, due to the fact he looked as good as he ever has, destroying Margarito, his age is only brought up, 'incase he loses' ...and that's the immunity aging fighters recieve despite looking as good as ever in previous fights against top opposition. Therefore, perhaps younger contenders should rightfully duck these 35+ in-form fighters due to the fact that if you defeat them, your not gunna get much credit, people will point out the age.
     
  15. The Genius

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    SM was the best opponent out there for Floyd. This was a fight I personally didn't think FM would take and for that he gets credit.

    That being said, I never thought SM would win or even come close and I'm sure most felt exactly the same. The guy was still one of the best at the weight but his best days are certainly past him.

    I'm not trying to knock Floyd's victory or trying to say this fight was beneath him. It was a better opponent than I expected him to take. I only posted in this thread because some bright spark decided that the age angle was only brought up afterwards. He may have had a point if it were true but it quite plainly isn't and the proof is littered throughout this site.

    Saying that Shane is old is not shitting on Floyd, it is stating fact. Shane is/was still a top fighter at the weight however and FM deserves all the credit a victory like that entails.
     
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    Shane was old against Margarito too. At least Floyd beats up old guys, instead of getting KTFO and exposed as a disgraceful plaster cheat.
     
  17. The Genius

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    Ummmm...

    OK.

    I agree? :dunno:
     
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    :lol:
     
  19. bigdawg

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    Heres what I think. PBF is or was in a no win situation. If he wins which he did he beat an old SSM. Had he lost or if the fight was close he struggled or lost to an old fighter. But then those same haters would give Pac credit for fighting Shane. As a matter of fact they wouldn't dare mention shanes age. Why because he would have just beat PBF. But this is the worst thing that could have happened to Pacman and his fans. PBF dominated Shane in prolly one of PBF's best performances in a long time. Hanz can now shut that back foot bullshit up. Cause PBf walked Shane dpwn and showed some mental toughness. Great fight but most important it was a great victory. I'll Holla 5000
     
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  21. who?

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    was it fuck a great fight. what fight where you watching? give me a break.
     
  22. Joe King

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    A fight doesn't have to be Corrales/Castillo 1 to be entertaining, although it helps.

    If you can't appreciate a boxing clinic during a very high profile fight, then you really aren't a boxing fan.
     
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    get a grip you fat prick. old man river throw nothing after 2 rounds and was visibly exhausted. there was nothing great about beating that opponent. sorry.
     
  24. bigdawg

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    Thanks brother Joe. It was a masterful performance by PBF. I mean wjo would have thought that PBF was gonna be the bigger stronger fighter who would be walking down Shane. Hell PBF boxed more in the JMM fight then he did in this fight. Not to mention I seriously thought PBF was gonna go down in the second round. I don't know if he was more hurt in the second round against -hane or the shot he took against corley. Anyways it was a master display of fighting and you could actually see PBF making adjustments in the fight. Like I said great night of action. I'll Holla 5000
     
  25. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If Shane won 3 more rounds and then lost the last 7 and you would still be saying the same damn thing, you fucking bitch.
     
  26. Hanz

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    As everybody knows, I was making threads that Shane was gonna massacre Floyd. And in round 2, I amost jizzed!
    I never dreamed that Shane was only prepared for 2 rounds with the basic gamplan of landing a big punch and doing a lot of nothing. Basically rolling his hands, bouncing around a lot and doing f*ck all after the second round.
    This wasn't at all the Mosley I expected to see tonight. I thought we would have seen A LOT more and it looked like he can't at all pull the trigger like he did in his 2000 fight with DLH.
    I'd have been cool with a Floyd win regardless, even if I'm a hater. But I expected a lot more from Shane Mosley tonight and was upset.
    Regardless, Floyd won and I gotta accept it and move on. So all credit to Floyd for dealing with his business like a pro.:kidcool:
     
  27. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If you walked 5 yards, you'd be escorted to customer service so they could page your parents you short and demented momma's boy.
     
  28. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    The only thing that is obvious is the fact that after nearly 10 years on a boxing board, you still don't know shit about boxing and cling to petty hate of fighters. It must suck to be such a pathetic fuck.
     
  29. Pascals Wager

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    It's obvious that SSM is an old fighter.
    He's 38, had some tough fights, & is not the fighter that he used to be by a long shot.
    If you don't accept that , you're in denial.
    Great old fighters can look great against stalking K.O artists, but their age gets exposed against younger, quicker guys.
    I know that it's an inconvienient truth for some, but it's true.

    I thought it was obvious that PBF would win a clear UD. I even predicted that if it wasn't for his tendency to fight "not to lose" he could win via TKO.
    -I was pretty much on the money. I reckon if he had killer instinct (which he hasn't), he could have stopped SSM tonight.
    I also reckon that Manny would have stopped the SSM we saw tonight.

    Having said that, PBF did impress me with how strong he is at that weight, & the fact that he was walking SSM down. That was something that I didn't expect.
    That was the most impressive aspect of PBF's performance tonight.

    He also came back well after getting caught.

    We should all hope that Manny-Floyd happens.
     
  30. Haymaker

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    This!

    Floyd beat the man at 147 lbs, he fought and beat a true WW
     

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