Mayweather/Mosley PPV # = 1.2 Million

If margarito had beat the shit out of mosley u can bet a fight between him and mayweather jr wouldve done MUCH better numbers

 

In a vacuum, that statement is true.

But when guaranteed purses are at $30 million, then 1.2-1.3 million is no better than barely meeting expectations.

Pac-Cotto is a more impressive number because the card cost about half of what Golden HBOy spent on this show.

Nevertheless, while both drew very well and with Pac-Clottey exceeding expectations for such a shitty card, the message sent loud and clear is that the only truly blockbuster event left for the sport is Mayweather-Pacquiao. The sooner both fighters realize it, the better.

 

How about Wlad vs Haye for the unified IBF/WBA world titles, taking place in England? Seems like it would be a pretty good event.

 

They should be forced to watch RJJ-B-Hops 2, they would realise it soon enough.

 

i personally was disappointed in the numbers a little. i was expecting around 1.4 million.

 

sorry, I should've said PPV event. I agree on a global level, Wlad-Haye is a huge fight

 

If U "Never Watch" It, How do U KNOW it Pales in Comparison to the 24/7's???...



REED::

 

It's higher than I thought it would be. I guessed between 850K-1 million ppv buys. 2 million ppv buys was a pipe dream.

 

So for All U Know, the "Production Value" Could've INCREASED...



REED:hammert:

 

REED Anxiously Awaits your Synopsis...


REED:hammert:

 

I thought it was going to be around 1.5 million

 

The problem with these #'s is people are watching a dull performance by PBF. He's simply not exciting to watch. People want to see blood. I think PBF fight with Marquez hurt him in terms of appeal.

 

Here's the Post that REED Responded to...

MMA is getting great numbers effortlessly

boxing tries so hard with all this 24/7...plus the dramas and phoney personas outside the ring

Sorry, but MMA is Putting Forth JUST AS MUCH "Effort" as Boxing is, Arguably MORE...HBO Does "24/7" for its MAJOR Fights...UFC Does "Countdowns" for EVERY PPV...

HBO DOESN'T have a Reality SERIES Either, Whereas UFC has "T.U.F."

As for the Production Value of the "Countdowns" vs. "24/7", Spike has Sent Film Crews to BRAZIL, CANADA, HAWAII & Other Corners of the Mixed Martial Arts World to Profile Fighters...THAT'S Production Value...

& REED just Remebered that Spike/UFC has Recently Implemented a "24/7" esque Show of it's Own...For the GSP-B.J. Fight, it was 3-4 Episodes...Likewise for the GSP-Hardy Fight...

Bottom Line, it's INCORRECT to Say that MMA is Getting Great #'s "Effortlessly"...

REED:hammert:

 

I think the UFC isn't imitating 24/7 because it would be blantantly obvious. HBO and SPIKE has drastically different demographics too.

 

I agree with this. Even tho Mosley was the one that gave up in the fight - i put a lot of blame on Mayweather for not being more offensive in his last two matches. He should have KO'd JMM, and imo he should have thrown more punches in the Mosley fight, maybe tough to KO Shane, but I expect more effort from the best fighter in the world

 

ufc is successful because of its monopoly and also due to the amount of white fighters in comparison to boxing.

 

I'm not arguing against that. I'm agreeing with it.

Spike goes after 18-34 year old males, while HBO goes after 25-54 year old males and females. Yes, they do have a piece of the Spike audience, but they have to target the broader audience in almost everything they do. This is in addition to the fact that SPIKE is free and HBO is paid for. Totally different revenue streams too.

UFC has a big advantage in that regard because as a single company they are now putting on shows on 2 "free" sports networks and have had major coverage (first pre-UFC show coverage on Saturday) by ESPN. They are making real strides there. HBO has Showtime and other networks to compete against, not to mention the various promotional companies to deal with.

 

Since Brock Lesnar has been responsible for their highest ppv numbers so far, also Forrest Griffin and Chuck Lidell has been two of their biggest draws, you might be right in that assesment. But it's not just about the color of the skin, but the nationality. Fedor is white and he is not really a huge draw. You got to have a white american to pull it off.

 

There's no doubt a shit load of marketing goes into the UFC, it's one of the reasons they are so successful, coupled with TUF of course, at least as much marketing as HBO.

 

This forum doesn't even exist if either Griffen or Bonnar knew how to duck a punch. ::

 

Forrest invented the boxing forum?

 

:: Sorry, thought I was in MMA.

Still, if we were in the MMA forum, point stands.

 

Forrest is like Al Gore, he's the mother of the internet boxing forum.

::

I knew what you meant though.