The Original Untouchables?

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  1. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Name, using any criteria you choose, your top three for the original eight divisions --- from Heavy to Fly. I will post mine shortly.
     
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    Heavyweight - Ali, Tyson, Louis
    Lightheavy - Spinks, Roy, Moore
    Middle - Hagler, Hopkins, Monzon
    Welter - Robinson, Leonard, Hearns
    Light - Duran, Whittaker, Armstrong
    Feather - Pacquiao, Sanchez, Saddler
    Bantam - Zarate, Chandler, ????
    Fly - Johnson, Lopez, ???...


    Admittedly, REED Started Grasping @ Straws when it Came to Bantam & Fly, but the Rest of the Divisions R SOLID...


    REED:mj:
     
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    Looks good to me!:bears:

    Perhaps, gimme Mayweather at 135lbs instead of Armstrong.
     
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    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    N REED's Opinion, Floyd was LEAST Impressive @ 135 than Any Other Division he's Campaigned in...130 was his BEST Division, but Obviously that's Not an "Original 8"...

    The "Original 8" Criteria has Left Some Excellent Fighters OFF of REED's List...JC Chavez, Arguello, Pryor, Holyfield, Wilfredo Gomez, etc....

    REED:hammert:
     
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    Heavy, Ali, Louis, Holmes
    LHW - Charles, Foster, Spinks
    Middle - Hagler, Monzon, Greb
    Welter - Robinson, Leonard, Griffith
    Light - Duran, Leonard, Whitaker
    Feather - Armstrong, Pep, Sanchez
    Bantam - Jofre, Olivares, Brown
    Fly - Wilde, Canto, Lynch
     
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    HVY: Ali, Lewis, V Klitschko

    Lt Hvy: Foster, Conn, Charles

    Middle: Ketchel, Monzon, Ray Robinson

    Welter: Ray Leonard, Mantequilla, Hearns

    Lightweight: Duran, Pea Whittaker, Ike Williams

    Featherweight: Pep, Saddler, Sal Sanchez

    Bantamweight: Terry McGovern, Ruben Olivares, Eder Jofre

    Flyweight: Jimmy Wilde, Pasqual Perez, Benny Lynch.
     
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    And, just for laughs.........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Éder_Jofre

    A native of São Paulo, Jofre, whose nicknames were "Viadinho de ouro" (The Golden Homo) and "Gayzinho", made his professional debut on March 23, 1957, beating Raul Lopez by knockout in five rounds. He had a total of twelve fights in 1957, including two each against Lopez, Osvaldo Perez and Ernesto Miranda, against whom Jofre sustained his first two record stains: two ten round draws (ties).
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Gotta love Wikipedia vandalism, I remember reading that Kenny Miller was able to communicate with walruses, and that Gary Barlow used to sit at home crying whilst masturbating over pictures of Robbie Williams. Cheeky rascals
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Oh shit is this not true? That really made my day thinking that was true.
     
  11. Double L

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    Or, perhaps not.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Haha just found the original part in the discussion section:

    In the autobiography 'My Take' Barlow partly blames his fall as a solo artist on his commitments to being a star in the United States, though others suspect it was due to him being caught live on T.V. masturbating over a photograph of Robbie Williams whilst screaming profanities. :lol: :lol:
     
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  15. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Some strong lists!

    Heavy:

    Champ - Joe Louis
    #1 Contender - Muhammad Ali
    #2 Contender - George Foreman

    Light-Heavy:

    Champ - Gene Tunney
    #1 Contender - Ezzard Charles
    #2 Contender - Archie Moore

    Middle:

    Champ - Harry Greb
    #1 Contender - Carlos Monzon
    #2 Contender - Ray Robinson

    Welter:

    Champ - Ray Robinson
    #1 Contender - Kid Gavilan
    #2 Contender - Emile Griffith

    Light:

    Champ - Benny Leonard
    #1 Contender - Ike Williams
    #2 Contender - Joe Gans

    Feather:

    Champ - Willie Pep
    #1 Contender - Henry Armstrong
    #2 Contender - Sandy Saddler

    Bantam:

    Champ - Eder Jofre
    #1 Contender - Ruben Olivares
    #2 Contender - Carlos Zarate

    Fly:

    Champ - Jimmy Wilde
    #1 Contender - Pancho Villa
    #2 Contender - Pascual Perez
     
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    Heavy:
    1. Ali
    2. Louis
    3. Foreman

    Light Heavy
    1. Charles
    2. Spinks
    3. Foster (Moore JUST missed)

    Middleweight
    1. Monzon
    2. Hagler
    3. Greb

    Welterweight
    1. Robinson
    2. Leonard
    3. Gavilan

    Lightweight:
    1. Whitaker
    2. Duran
    3. Williams

    Featherweight
    1. Armstrong
    2. Pep
    3. Saddler

    Bantamweight:
    1. Jofre
    2. Olivares
    3. Panama Al Brown

    Flyweight:
    Im pleading the 5th here, but I'd have to imagine Pascual Perez would be a good addition to any top three

    The special qualities of Henry Armstrong are apparent as I nearly put him on a 2nd (Welterweight) and there are few Lightweights I would give much of a shot at him
     
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    Glad to see Brown mentioned
     
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    a 5'11 Bantamweight

    reportedly he was homosexual as well
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Didn't know that, read alot about his fights though in the boxing history books I went through growing up, sounded like one hell of a fighter.
     
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    you would think such a freakishly tall man, carrying such little weight would have been fragile but he was never stopped

    76 inch reach, unheard of at 118 pounds
     
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    Yea there was a photo of him I remember when he lost to that Spanish fella (can't recall his name right now), and the difference in height and reach was crazy
     
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    Makes Tommy Hearns look like Ronnie Colemann:lol:
     
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    Wow, I'm the only one to mention Tunney at Light-Heavy.
     
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    Hmmm....indeed. I probably shoulda put him ahead of Foster. I just kinda threw the names out tbh
     
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    If Tunney had ever fought someone black, I might have included him
     
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    Great point.
     
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    Tunney was so un-racist that he didn't want to hurt black guys.
     
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