From sports perspective, is Pac-PBF biggest fight ever?

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  1. Hut*Hut

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    Reckon a realistic assessment of just how weak the era they've worked in's got to be factored in.
     
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    Is Duran in your top 10? Pac's accomplishments mirror his IMHO and if Pac beats PBF decisively, it will eclipse Duran's.
     
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    Duran is in the lower half of my top-ten Lightweights of all-time, let alone top ten ever.
     
  4. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Not trying to start a war here as I respect your views, but do you think it is possible for any fighter to break into your top 10 anymore or is it sealed?
     
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    How does your list go?
     
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    barney ross wouldve whipped pacquiao, mayweather jr, or duran at lightweight
     
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    In Pacquiao's case, an assesment of how strong was should be done when rating him all-time.
     
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    Even drunker than I was I think :lol:
     
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    and JC Chavez wouldve whooped Ross at lightweight
     
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    ross wouldve SCHOOLED Chavez.
     
  12. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    It makes no sense to consider it, "sealed," as fighters are always entering the fray a-new. In point of fact, I've long been a subscriber to the idea that there's always someone who arrives on the scene to take the mantle from the greatest. Somewhere, there's always someone, & I expect Robinson to one day lose his consensus mantle as the sport's finest product.

    With that said, asking a contemporary fighter to penetrate Boxing's top-ten all-time list is somewhat akin to asking a 1940's fighter to retire with a nest egg the size of today's superstars --- the sport is just so heavily-geared against achieving on a level equal to, or better than, those of the past, it's all but impossible to actively prove yourself at that level. It's almost like the sport should be ranked on two levels --- the greatest of the past to a point, & the greatest of contemporary Boxing.
     
  13. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    Champion - Benny Leonard (USA)
    2. Joe Gans (USA)
    3. Ike Williams (USA)
    4. Pernell Whitaker (USA)
    5. Henry Armstrong (USA)
    6. Roberto Duran (Panama)
    7. Barney Ross (USA)
    8. Carlos Ortiz (Puerto Rico)
    9. Tony Canzoneri (USA)
    10. Alexis Arguello (Nicaragua)
     
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    amen, so you agree that barney ross wouldve WHIPPED pacquiao and mayweather jr. at lightweight??
     
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    So who do you list above Margarito at 154? And by that I mean who would you bet on against him?
     
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    I reckon Dzindzuruk, Paul Williams, and the Rabbi lad all have the beating of him. Especially without the loaded gloves.
     
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    So two champs who are never rated by sanctioning bodies and one other guy.

    So you agree that #2 is correct?
     

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