ESPN : Mosley-Mora finalized for September 18th, Staples Center.

Well, you'd probably need a thesaurus if you were to go through and describe all of his decisions. ::

He certainly left a lot of money out there during his career.

 

This will again prove how Shane can't draw.

 

Well it's not going to help coming off an 11-1 loss.

 

Also, if he loses, it will be because PBF ruined him, just as he did Hatton and ODH.

 

well im sure the one sided whipping he took didnt affect him much at all.

 

please. it was hardly a whipping. one-sided, yes. a whipping? watch Forrest/Mosley II. this was not a whipping. And if Mosley looks like shit in his next fight it will be for the same reason he looked shitty in his last - he's nearly 40 years old and has remained active against top competition for more than a decade.

 

Ive seen Forrest- Mosley 2. a rather uneventful bout where neither guy did much. Mayweather jr gave Mosley a much more thorough whipping than forrest did in the rematch.

 

Whoops. I meant Forrest/Mosley I.

 

He beat Oscar twice and still couldn't draw. Nothing could help Shane whack drawing power.

 

it was a mistake anyone could have made



































particularly someone in the methadone clinic computer lab surrounded by fellow junkies prancing around and causing distractions.

 

Mosley is a peculiar case. He was an exciting, supremely watchable fighter at both 135 & 147 (until he first left the weightclass in 2003, as by the time he returned, he had aged), & is always touted as being a likeable individual, but still, crowds remained sparse --- even after what appeared to be the fight which put him on the map, his crowning glory in 2000.

Myself, I never liked Shane Mosley. The BALCO fiasco only served to solidify that dislike, & as such, I was none-too-perturbed to see him so roundly beaten by Mayweather in his last outing. I don't know whether or not he'll beat Mora (I have only seen this guy once --- in his disastrous rematch with an old Forrest), but I do think he should hang 'em up. He's nearly forty now, & for a gent so reliant on blazing speed, he is headed for dangerous waters. Some will tell you he is already slurring.

Edit: BTW, I will go to my grave contesting his, "win" over De La Hoya in 2003. Mosley lost that one, hands down. That fight falsely credits Mosley with having won the Jr. Middleweight title. A Shame.

 

Stop buying shitty PPV cards and Golden Boy and Slob Arum will be compelled to stop putting on shitty PPV cards.

 

regardless of who you think won that fiasco, it was a shitty performance by both men

 

What's that got to do with anything, though? Mosley had enough exciting fights to be a draw, but for whatever reason, could not be. One fight wasn't going to change that when he was already more than thirty years old, with a full decade of pro fighting behind him.

 

Looks like Victor Ortiz vs Vivian Harris is one of the undercard fights being discussed.

 

nontheless. PBF did nothing like, "whip" Mosley. and that's a 40 year old Mosley. if Mosley looks like shit against Mora, it'll have been for the same reason he looked like shit against PBF.

let's be real here. Judah had a better performance against PBF than Mosley did. Mosley is shot to hell.

 

what was your prediction going into the mayweather jr vs mosley bout?

 

Mosley vs Mora. :shit:

I mean.....how the fuck is this fight even relevant?

 

Thats smart. Now there will be more than 500 people there.

 

Looks like HBO has pulled out of this promotion and G's is heading it up on their own. I see another finacial loss by them just like they had with the Jones-Hopkins PPV.

 

Exactly, it's a joke when they are trying to tell us that piracy kills boxing, nah, it kills the pockt of lazy/corrupt promoters who tries to make $$$ withouth doing their job properly ( wich is to promote their fighters )

 

Looks like Saul Alvarez-Carlos Baldomir and Victor Ortiz-Vivian Harris are official for this undercard.

 

sean "the grave digger" gibbons must have taken his shovel over to golden boy promotions to come up with those two foes.

 

I couldn't agree more. If I'm Shane, I wouldn't fight again unless I got Manny or maybe, maybe a Cotto rematch. No one else really matters at this point in Shane's career.

 

That undercard actually interests me.

Easy for you to say that but you don't know where Mosley stands finacially. He probably needs the money, especially after his divorce.

Besides I don't think there is any interest in Mosley fighting Pacquiao or even Cotto after his last performance. Only way to get one of those fights is by taking this one and looking impressive again which I highly doubt he will do.

 

I do have some interest in the Alvarez-Baldomir fight...not so much in the Ortiz-Harris fight.

Gotta figure Golden Boy is already working on Canelo's first loss.

Cotto gave him a bit of a scare back in May, but Alvarez is only 20, G's got plenty of time to get him knocked out.

 

Whatever about G throwing their "prospects" to the wolves early, I wouldnt be too hard on them- I'd rather see Victor Ortiz or Danny Jacobs tested earlier in their career in a 50-50 fight rather than wait until they have amassed something like three paper titles in three divisions a la top rank before they end up facing a fighter on their level. That might make me a crap manager but we all sit here complaining about mismatches and set-ups, and allowing fights to "marinate" etc. etc. and then we scoff at the management of a young fighter who is put in tough before they win a title :dunno:

 

It's not about "throwing anybody to the wolves", it's about bringing a fighter along in their career. Jacbos is 23, I belive Ortiz was 22 when he lost to Maidana, which is pretty young in the development of most fighters...and Maidana and Pirog were difficult opponents and real threats in those fights, not just to win, but to win by knockout.

As a fan, I've got no problem with the competitiveness of the fights...I said Pirog-Jacobs was a BAD level fight going in...easily the most interesting fight to me on that PPV card from last weekend...and Maidana-Ortiz was one of the best HBO main events of last year.

But at 23, a fighter like Jacobs is hardly a finished product...he fought Ishe Smith and some other guys, not exactly the cream of the crop as far as contenders at 160. Is that enough to prepare a fighter to to fight the best in the division? (From what I saw in some of those fights, the answer would be no.)

What was going to happen if he won the title?

Was G going to look to make some unification fights? Were they going to call out Pavlik, Williams? Were they going to go directly to the Golovkin fight?

In other words, was Jacobs going to be handled like Devon Alexander, also 23, and who's being put in against Andriy Kotelnik and then possibly Timothy Bradley? (Was he even ready for that?)

Or were they planning on getting him a title and then bringing him back to HBO or back on ppv in some lesser fights...maybe get him a Steve Forbes-type of defense (like Berto got), and then perhaps put him in against a contender like Collazo (like Berto was), and depending on how he looks, or if he alsmost loses, take another step down in opposition and pull up a fighter from a lower weight class for his next fight (like Urango was)?

And that's the point. If a fighter fights for a title and isn't even prepared to defend it against the top contenders in the division, let alone other champions, then what good is it to even have him as a champion? (And by "prepared", I don't just mean as a fighter, but that the fighter and his camp are prepared to make fights against other top fighters.)

That doesn't mean a prospect should be paraded endlessly on HBO in showcase fights.

There's Shobox, FNF, Telefutura, Telemundo, ppv undercards, etc.