Has anybody changed their mind about PBF 's drug allegation being an avoidance ploy?

Has anybody changed their mind about the motives behind PBF's 1st refusal

Does PBF's latest refusal to fight Manny shed any light on the motivations behind his initial refusal?

 

Opens up the possibility though I still don't think so. I suspect the calculations are primarily financial on Floyd's part. It'll happen next May if Manny gets by Tony (big IF).

 

It's obvious PBF wants to preserve his undefeated record. Pacman is a threat and he knows it.

 

Nope.I knew it was a ploy to get out of the fight the whole time...and Hut,your making SlyStaff look good.

 

Im not trying to defend Floyd. Im not in the posting business of defending Floyd. I'm just giving my opinion.:surrender: We'll see: I might be totally wrong and Floyd is scared of fighting Pac but I really don't think that's the reason here. I think Floyd's people think either that the fight will generate more, or that Floyd will be in a stronger bargaining position at a later date.

If it doesn't happen by May 2011 I'll admit Im talking out m arse, that's just my suspicion. Lets face it, none of us have enough info to have definitive positions on this, we're all just going on our suspicions.

 

I don't think it was a ploy. And I think that Mayweather would actually have signed the fight when the initial negotiations were going on had Manny agreed to the testing. I think the intensity and length of the negotiations showed that both parties indeed had dollar signs in their eyes.

But the more I observe how PBF behaves, the more I am coming to realize that he is truly as self-centered and self-absorbed as a human being can possibly be. Take the most selfish, egotistical person you've ever met and multiply it by 1000, you now have something approaching Floyd.

Floyd doesn't believe in "right" or "wrong", "good" or "bad", and when it comes to boxing he doesn't believe in legacy, courage, fighting the best, or even fighting your best, necessarily. He believes in FLOYD. What Floyd wants at any given moment is what's good. If Floyd feels like fighting Manny this month, it's good. But then if later on he doesn't like it, too bad. There doesn't have to be any reason. He's Floyd. You think when he says that he IS boxing that he is just being a prick? He honestly believes that shit. And right now, Floyd don't feel like fighting Manny. He doesn't even bother to lower himself to the level of the fans to "explain" it - he doesn't need to. He doesn't owe his fans anything. He's Floyd.

Now having said that, Floyd is clearly aware that there are fights out there he could lose. And part of why he has been able to get away with living in Floydworld successfully is because he's a damn good boxer, and an undefeated one. He knows that a loss, especially a KO, would seriously damage Floydworld and is therefore fearful of such an event. So while I don't think his drug-test thing was a ploy to avoid the fight, I believe that he is indeed generally hesitant to fight Manny because he is scared of a loss.

That doesn't mean the fight won't happen. But it does mean that the boxing world can expect a maddening sequence of events leading up to the fight if it ever happens. We are in the midst of it now. And I would not be shocked at all to see Floyd take another fight in the meantime against someone he shouldn't be fighting, or should have fought years ago. In Floydworld, that's what counts to pay the bills. Oh and he's undefeated, too.

Unfortunately for Floyd, most boxing fans live in the real world and not Floydworld, so Floyd comes across as a completely hypocritical cowardly narcissistic asshole... which of course he is. I don't think the drug test thing was a ploy, but I cannot stand Floyd Mayweather and I refuse to even read articles about him anymore. I don't want to see him on TV, or hear him talk, or watch him fight unless it's against Pac. PBF is just a detestable human being. It is a chronic, painful irony to boxing fans that such a diarrheal personality was put in such a gifted body.

 

Spot on. I've always thought of Floyd as a 32 year old child. He has a childish self absorption, a childish insecurity and operates on childish, capricious whims. When I say he doesn't think the time is right it isn't to justify it. Just to try and peer into the jumbled hall of mirrors reflecting images of Floyd, that is his thought process & speculate to what his reasons are.

I still believe the fight will happen next year, but it will have to be on Floyd's timetable, even if it's arbitrary.

 

Here is how I see it.

1. Floyd Genuinely Believed Pac Was Taking Something.

2. Floyds Belief Was Influenced By His Father and G

3. Floyd Allowed This Belief To Dominate His Mindset On Pac

4. Floyds Fear Of Losing Got The Better Of Him ANYWAYS