Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Amir Khan @ 140

I hate Khan so much that I wouldnt even fault Floyd for taking that one. Khan has to be splattered on the canvas again by someone.

I wonder if G would risk putting either Con or Quitiz in with Judah? Zab still might be able to expose both of them.

 

Neither guy (Ortiz or Con) are physical fighters. They would give Judah all the time he'd need. I agree - Judah could definitely knock out Con, and his speed would likely crush Ortiz's will.

 

Khoward can't wear headgear in a pro fight. He could be winning the fight easily then gets touched and it's lights out. Ortiz can punch.

 

Its a possibility, but I think Conman beats Ortiz. Khan's weak chin is canceled out by Ortiz's weak mind. Ortiz is pretty quick, but Khan is faster and alot rangier and I think that would provide Ortiz with too many problems. I think Ortiz gets intimidated by Con's faster hands and spends all night long waiting for one shot, while getting peppered all night long in the process.

Vs Alexander and Bradley, its a different story for Con. Those two are alot quicker and more skilled than Ortiz, and have the ring IQ to deal with the bullshit Con does in the ring.

Ortiz's ring IQ is pretty low.

 

Ortiz won't touch him, that video is the closest he'll ever come to landing something on Amir.

 

Victor is a naturally heavy handed guy. he'd hurt Khoward when he's not trying to hurt him. Plus if the rumors are true, Khoward gets hurt regularly in sparring which says to mean even a weak minded Ortiz poses a threat...even if Victor doesn't know it.

Khoward would be better suited fighting Tim Bradley. Bradley isn't that good and is way shorter than Khan. Even if Bradley touches Khoward he doesn't hurt him unless Khoward's chin is worse than we know.

With that said...those two fights mean more than one with Marquez. I also like how barristan doesn't want the fight. he knows what Golden Boy is trying to do. I'd guess Marquez would have to get close to what he made against Floyd to fight Khoward. Golden Shower Boy would have to comply to continue to protect Khoward.

 

Katsidis is probably my favourite current fighter but he is absolutely tailor-made for JMM. Marquex would absolutely beat the shit out Kats.

MTF

 

I don't want the Marquez fight either, pointless fight. However Khan will smash Ortiz...again.

 

I hope Konward gets smashed, whomever he fights.

 

He will one day. The kid is a media creation. The very defintion of a fraud. G is tryin to hype him up like he's the next Oscar. Much as I always hated the Golden cross dresser, in his younger days he was light years better than Khan's bum ass.

But of course Oscar will lie to the media, and tell everybody that Khan can be just as good as him. Oscar knows its a lie, but he says it anyway to get everybody on the Conman bandwagon.

 

I cant agree with this. For one, power aside, Bradley is vastly superior to Ortiz in just about every way. And two, Bradley can DEFINITELY hurt Con. Check out the sneak right hand he hurt Peterson with. That same shot would likely put Conman on his back.

Now I wont lie, I dont think Khan is an easy fight for Tim. His range, jab, and speed provided Timmy with problems. But down the stretch, I think Timmy would take over the fight.

So no, Khan is better off fighting Ortiz. He'd find it MUCH easier to outbox Ortiz, rather than Bradley.

 

I like Bradley, he's done things the hard way and deserves respect, but I don't see him beating Amir. Alexander is clearly the bigger threat of the two.

 

Alexander is the best at 140. But Bradley will beat Khan. Conman is taller, and has slightly faster hands than Tim, but Bradley is more versatile and is a better thinker. Khan doesnt have much ring IQ. He's good as long as his game plan is working, but if it doesnt work... I'm almost positive he wont be able to adjust his style.

 

We'll see. However I disagree.

 

Bradley doesn't have a high IQ if you ask me. Khan only needs two punches to beat tim...a straight jab and a left hook. bradley opens up so wide when throwing the right hand Khan will kill him with his jab. Same with the lefthook.

 

Maybe so, but all the talk is for shit if Khan never grows the balls to fight Tim. I think the plan is to face Marquez next, then Ortiz, and then by then hope that Alexander & Bradley have killed one of themselves off.

 

Bradley's open for the right-hand too - he leans his head to his right all the time. I thought Abregu was going to find Bradley leaning with his right-hand, but he never did.

 

So what? He'll still have to beat the winner (the better one) to unify

 

he won't have to beat any of them. what he's hoping, what G is hoping, is that Con's wins over Marquez and then Ortiz will have us lemmings so convinced he's great that when he makes unreasonable demands of Bradley or Alexander to fight him, he'll be justified, and HBO, not wanting to lose his momentum, and basically admit they aren't showing the only fights that matter, will go right along with it.

 

it's a punk move again for Khan not to face a live body from 140.

but being a JMM fan I actually wanna see this fight. Khan should win but I am hoping JMM can land something and make it interesting.

 

If you ask me, Bradley is raw talent and not very well schooled. It's a shame, because presumably, he's teachable and always has been, in which case, it's been his lack of exposure to good teachers that he's succeeded in spite of, but may hit a wall as a consequence.

 

Marquez doesn't appear to be interested in fighting Khan. I think that Bradely will fight Alexander on January 29, leaving Khan to have to fight Maidana and Katsidis fighting Marquez. Then Khan will probably fight Ortiz after Maidana.

 

khan will need to fight someone older and smaller as a confidence boost after maidana lays him out

 

Amen.

 

LOL

Maidana ain't doing shit, probably the most overrated fighter I've seen on these forums

 

This is very true...Tono Diaz's older brother is not a good trainer at all. He also has problems getting good sparring living in the Cochella Valley hours from anywhere.