The Ten WORST Heavyweight Champions Of All-Time...

Bigging up your idol Bert Sugar, obv.:nana:

 

Leap Amateurism, of the written kind.

 

Some of those guys on Ramon's list were pretty damn good fighters.

Carnera could fight, was not an all time great, but he was good, as was Rahman.

Michael Spinks was an all time great light heavy, moved up for the cash.

Leon had that one great moment, to be heavyweight champion you have to be good.

 

Who would you nominate, Karl?

 

Rahman was indeed a terrible fighter. Terrible.

 

You will never hear me say Rahman was a great fighter, because he wasn't, neither was Ingo, but they were good.

 

Well obviously, since they were heavyweight champions, but this thread is about choosing the worst of the best

 

I should be more professional, like you are?

Hmmm... I need to develop a clear socio-ethnic bias and then apply it to my understanding of an athletic competition... this will make me a true pro

 

you expect HIM to understand such nuance?

 

Seldon had the chin of a 10 yr old autistic boy.

 

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I totally Loled.

 

You have already done this.

 

It appears to be a clash of, yesterdays era overstepping the mark,... verses, the contemporary era doing the same thing,.. your both battling, to and fro, for a bigger slice of the cake, so to speak.

 

is that so? care to provide a SINGLE EXAMPLE?

 

my only agenda is discussing what is REAL, not what I wish was real

if someone wants to believe that right now is a terrific time for professional boxing, they are free to do so in the absence of all of the evidence to the contrary

also, there is no racial motivation or wishful ethnic thinking behind anything I say... if there was, then Barry McGuigan would be the best featherweight ever and Wayne McCullough would have "almost beat" Hamed and Morales,,, I dont care about any of that when it comes to discussing the sport, I dont put my own wishes into what I observe and what I say

 

LOL, the question was whether or not you could understand the nuance.

Another spot-on Einstein impersonation from you

Again, listening to a guy who's sole "qualification" is that he use to lose fights as an amateur nobody ever heard of espouse his praise of such mediocre pro fighters as Mac Foster while ranting and raving about being very loosely linked to a merely competetent professional like Juan Diaz and an utterly unproven pro like Chris Henry is not my idea of learning a whole lot

You dont have to have been punched into defeat dozens of times to be able to confidentally make the assertion that "Willie Pep was a better fighter than Kevin Kelley" or "Ivan Calderon does not punch as hard as Julian Jackson" ... indeed a person bound to a wheelchair from the age of 2 onward could easily watch these people fight and make the same accurate asessments

George Foreman accomplished 10 zillion light years more things in boxing than you ever did and yet he was infamous for making some of the most idiotically untrue observations about fighters and fights that anyone has ever heard... he routinely and emphatically stated things that are even more ridiculous than the things you often say.

You need a PhD in Pugilistica Dementia to be able to say "Pernell Whitaker was a great defensive fighter" or "Dave Tiberi outworked James Toney"? Bullshit and you know it

Everytime I have ever attempted to debate something with you about BOXING, you never make a point, never defend any of your idiotic, agenda-driven opinions and immediately resort to "I once got knocked silly by Juanita Leonard so I know more than you do" stories because I routinely chop your stupid opinions into little pieces with nothing more than the most basic facts... there is almost never any real thought-provoking, needle-sharp insight needed... I need only dip my finger into the water of the poll of knowledge to refute 99% of your positions, wading or outright diving is never needed

If I debate someone like Ramonza or BroadwayJoe or lb for lb or Dubblechin (back when he was around) or Donnybrook (same) or a dozen other guys on here who either never boxed or who have never made claims to have done so, I am actually required to WORK, to actually THINK and ponder my own position and defend it

With you, I could reduce your nonsenical positions to piles of ash while yawning and sighing from boredom

 

Well, 55 wins and 13 losses with 21 victories by RSC isn't too bad, which is what my record was.

Only half of those losses were legit, but I also got one or two decisions that could have gone the other way.

Being in the ring with Rolando Navarette, Andrew Ganigan, Orlando Javierto, Juan Diaz, and Chris Henry, IMO isn't too shabby.

Lay off of the personal attacks here and we will get along just fine.

Karl

 

we all envy your ring accomplishments, karl. when are we duking it out on vine?

 

But you see, that's the problem

The personal attacks are ALWAYS STARTED BY YOU

Everytime this happens, you are the one who starts it, inevitably with some "you're a typist, brother" or some other thing

it is always you who makes it personal first, so naturally I'm going to do so in self-defense

 

have you gotten beaten up by a couple former champions some twenty odd years ago? i didnt think so! kindly stfu

 

LOL, you fucking prick::

 

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