Tito Trinidad still looking good!

Not bad after so many years away from the sport! TITO TITO TITO!!!!! Fast Forward to 3:26

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He's putting them together nice.

 

he looks chubby.

 

No homo at the title.

 

would have been great if the guy doing the pad work with him just strated throwing jabs and he just stopped punching and looked confused

 

thank you, thank you ::

 

for fuck's sake, those idiots don't understand the concept of editing videos? Cut the whole and leave the interesting parts?

 

:bears:

Hell the heavy bag he is hitting at the end seems to be confusing him with the movement as it swings back and forth

 

He didn't look confused when he was considered by many to be the best fighter in the world, did he?

 

He was always really exciting to watch. The Winky fight though was dreadful. Saw that fight live and never watched it again.

 

Sure he looked good until he ran into his arch nemesis THE JAB.

 

Tito was past it, and should never have accepted that guy as Winky could stink anyone out on a given night.

 

I didn't either, Hanz.

The kid was past it, and Winky just jabbed and slid to his right and nailed him with the left when he reached in, just as he should have.

This typist who calls themselves boss with the shooting finger has just been placed on ignore.

 

I can't ever remember a time when he was the consensus number-one, though.

He maximised his strengths, doubtless, & achieved more than I thought a fighter with his talents should. He was a deserving pound-for-pound entrant in the World top-10 at the height of his powers, but I can honestly say I find it difficult to believe any truly astute observer would ever have taken him to the number-one spot, given he shared the field with Ricardo Lopez & Roy Jones --- among other, greater talents.

 

Plenty of fighters and trainers in the gyms did, Ramonza.

He cemented that claim with victories over Oscar and Whitaker.

You may find that difficult to believe 15 years or so after the fact, but Tito was spoken in terms of reverence reserved for a young Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson, Emile Griffith, the elite of the elite, at one time.

He was a sensational fighter, yes he was flawed as he dropped his left after jabbing and hooking occasionally, and when you dropped him, beware as the kid would come back and literally take a guy's head off of his shoulders.

Your theory is a valid one in hindsight, but it is similar to all of the talk now about Bruce Lee, and I was there as well and Bruce was accepted as Undisputed King of the Martial Arts then, and there was just no talk otherwise.

 

The fights with Whitaker & De La Hoya, "cemented" his consensus number-one positioning?

The idea, I take it, is that his career 1990-96 put him at arguably number-one, & by late-1999, defeating De La Hoya (with Whitaker already in the pocket) secured first spot? I honestly do not see how anyone could see it that way --- Whitaker was completely used-up, & that was known going into that fight. De La Hoya beat Trinidad, & only the Vegas judges & the isles of Puerto Rico mistook what they saw that night.

I lived both Stateside & here during Trinidad's most prominent years (1996-01), & remember very few pound-for-pound lists in the day which nominated him as the best fighter in the world --- his greatest victim is De La Hoya, whom he failed to beat in reality. It's true that it was considered blasphemy for anyone to have him outside their top-10 around that time (& the now-underrated win over Vargas didn't hurt his standing), & he made many top-5's, but did any publication ever rank him so highly?

Trinidad's flaws were there for all to see, & it didn't take Boxing experts to notice he was never going to be the world's best fighter in an era populated by Mosley, De La Hoya, Lopez, Jones & co.

 

Tito The Man

OK, you keep referring to rankings and publications and saying he lost to Oscar, which did not happen.

Oscar ran like a thief in a close fight and blew it as he was afraid to engage the guy, and had he done that -- he would have knocked Felix out IMO as Trinidad was over-trained a bit and was gassing from running after the guy.

Oscar was a great fighter, but lacked the balls in that one to put him on Robinson's and Leonard's level.

Lopez was one of the most explosive fighters I ever saw, his shots had a velocity to them for a man his size..it was fantastic.

I had the privilege of seeing him work in person twice, and was very impressed.

I was a big fan of Roy's, what muscle development and natural speed and power, he was perhaps the greatest athlete in boxing history, and I have never before and never will say anything derogatory about him as a fighter.

Had Roy stayed at heavyweight, he would have beaten those bigger and slower guys like Ruiz in a return, Holyfield, Tyson, Johnson, Moorer, Botha, Maskaev, Tua, Briggs, Mercer, and Rahman as they wouldn't have touched him with anything big.

Tito IMO was the most exciting fighter of the decade, an aggressive and strong kid who fought out of his boxing stance and delivered every punch with perfection and turned over and snapped his shots off with beauty and and precision.

He was charismatic and fought with great rhythm and verve, and his fights were an event to watch on Saturday night on Showtime, and the paying in house customer and viewer were guaranteed thrills from this kid with a lit fuse in each fist.

He was a wrecking machine in there, and the most intimidating figure since the halcyon days of Mike Tyson.

The baby faced assassin simply oozed menace in the squared circle, and many of his opponents, good fighters whose fighting heart simply left them after they nailed him and then saw their life flash before their eyes as they were beaten to a bloody and broken pulp.

He was the man IMO in a tough era, and those were some very exciting times in the sports world when boxing was red hot.

Karl

 

no homo my ass

hex-one would kill his first born to get tito's dick in or around his mouth

 

I basically agree with your post.

Trinidad should have been hitting forearms, elbows, shoulders, anything he could land on.

My theory on that particular fight was that Winky hurt and buzzed him when he caught him lunging in early, and Trinidad just said to heck with it, and decided to BS his way to a lopsided points loss as he was really nailed and didn't want to wind up on his back.

 

I suppose I just don't view him the same way you do. I don't remember himever being the best fighter in the world in the eyes of the majority of the public, though.

He lost to De La Hoya, & that's a fact.

 

Funny, but not true. Tito was a fantastic fighter.

 

how did you score the first 4 rounds of that bout? that shitty bout

 

I don't recall off-hand precisely (though I did come up with a 7-4-1 card), but your question might just inspire me to dust this one off & give it another whirl, pen & pad in-hand.

 

It's a big call, but I might be tempted to call his power second to his heart. His endurance, too, was a thing to behold.

Unfortunately, those three areas were the only truly excellent qualities he had...but he sure took them a long way.

 

i can describe that bout in a nutshell. 4 very uneventful rounds, then delahoya boxed well and dominated for 4 and a half rounds. somewhere in that 9th round he got cracked and was overcome with cowardice. overall, a shitty performance by both men, one of which who shouldve moved up in weight 3 years prior.

 

Did you have any feeling on who won, Neil? I imagine you didn't care much, but did you have a take, either now, or then?

 

looked to me like both men lost. scoring wise it was certainly a close bout. not one id ever re-watch. there are much better delahoya fights worth reviewing. particularly vs pacquiao, sturm, and the first mosley bout.