Tito finally comes clean about Sept. 29th, 2001.

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  1. The Ripper

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    Many years have passed since Felix "Tito" Trinidad was defeated by Bernard Hopkins. Their fight took place on September 29, 2001*at Madison Square Garden located in New York City. There were several problems prior to the fight. The tragedy of the September 11 terrorist attacks on New York postponed the fight from the planned date of September 15. In an upset, Hopkins stopped Trinidad in the tweflth round to unify the middleweight division.

    Trinidad says the date change had a lot to do with the loss. A few days before the Hopkins fight was scheduled to take place [on the new date], Trinidad's personal life began to fall apart. Trinidad's wife found out*her husband*was having an affair when the news was broken apart by the Puerto Rican media that Trinidad had a baby girl*out of wedlock.*

    “Look,*nine years*have*passed by since that fight, and I've never talked about it," Trinidad told Jose Sanchez. "There were several factors. In New York (before the fight)*there were*three days where I couldn't sleep at all with so many things on*my mind.*

    "Before a big fight, sometimes*it's difficult to sleep because you keep*thinking 'bloody hell, the guy that*I'm going to fight will be very tough.' What affected me were the towers, and the date change also had to do with it. But the situation with my wife is what I had*on my*mind. That was the main thing, more than anything. Thank God, we overcame it."

    If the fight would have went forward on the 15th, Trinidad doesn't think the final result would have been the same because he wouldn't have had all of*the personal problems weighing heavy*on his mind.

    "if the fight had been on 15th,*the story would have been different,"*Trinidad said.
     
  2. Beyond the Grave

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    Bernard was too well rounded and too big and strong for Trinidad.
     
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    sounds familiar
     
  4. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    I adore & admire the fire-brand will & iron determination of men like Trinidad, Chavez, etc...but this is the ugly side of pride you have to accept goes along with the positives of it.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Even most Puerto Ricans know that Trinidad would have never beaten Hopkins. Sure there were plenty who gassed him up to believe that 9/11 threw him off and what not but in all honesty none of that would have mattered.

    Hopkins was just better.
     
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    Hopkins was just better, and it's one of the big fights that I picked right and was surprised that more didn't pick right. Tito was what I call a "cerebral puncher"...he spends all fucking day getting around to knocking people's blocks off. Against Hopkins, especially a much younger Hopkins, that was never a useful gameplan.
     
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    Starting with the Thiam fight, Trinidad stopped thrwoing combinations and relying on the left hook without setting it up. The Joppy fight illustrates this.
     
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    Hopkins was a better fighter fighter than Felix Trinidad

    but a boxer making up up a bunch of lame excuses is nothing new
     
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    Tito said bloody hell?
     
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    Hopkins would have beaten Trinidad every day of the week. Stylewise...just an impossible task for Trinidad..especially when you factor in the natural size difference as well.

    Even Tito's daddy knows this.
     
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    He's a limey rican!
     
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    Most of what he said was true, but two problems with this alleged revelation nine years after the fact:

    - All of this stuff came out at the time of the fight and was never a secret at any point between then and now.

    - Even without that stuff leaking out during the two-week postponement, he still loses. The only question is if he's any more competitive, to which the answer is most likely still no.
     
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    Sloppy Jermaine Taylor beat him 2 times why not a prime Tito?
     
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    i miss tito
     
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    Because Tito had horrible footwork and Bernard was smart enough to stay away from his left hook as if it were radioactive. Bernard had great footwork and tight defense for that fight. Tito did not.

    The rounds were close but the scorecards weren't, just prior to the stoppage. That was one of Bernard's best-ever showings---particularly when you factor how pedestrian the Keith Holmes fight was one bout earlier.
     
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    :bears: There may never be another Tito.
     
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    first off, he barely beat him... secondly, Taylor and Tito could not have been more different stylistically
     
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    Third, Hopkins was way older.
     
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    indeed
     
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    Four, hex-one looks at athletes he likes the way I did when I was five. Heroes.
     
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    Any other excuses? How about Hopkins was just to ugly for Tito to beat him? :Giggle:
     
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    Tito doesn't beat really good fighters who are good looking either.

    Tito got a gift against Oscar.
     
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    The fight would've been different on September 15th. They would've rioted in MSG after Hopkins kicked Trinidad's ass.
     
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    the largely Puerto Rican audience booed the national anthem during the Trinidad/Joppy fight, which is doubly idiotic considering Puerto Rico isnt a country and is part of the United States
     
  26. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    You can be sure, though, that Puerto Ricans do not see it that way.
     
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    Over at boxingscene, this topic comes up and there's always people who swear that Puerto Rico is a country.
     
  28. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    It is usually referred to as such, is why. In spiritual terms, it really is a country --- even if by objective criteria, it isn't, & the island has in fact voted against independent recognition.

    Even so, for all intents & purposes (culturally), it is its own nation.
     
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    well then they should vote to be independent and see how well they do on their own

    If Puerto Rico had a national anthem (it doesnt) and it was played in that exact same situation, does anyone think there'd be a thousand white/black/asian americans booing?
     
  30. Jake

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    First of all, Puerto Rico does have its own national anthem.

    Second, in your opinion, what would be the "same exact situation" of it being sung? Just want to make sure you understand the background before this discussion is continued.
     

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