P4P match ups are retarded. Please refrain from making them.

Thank you. This is your first and last warning.

 

I second this motion.

 

Thirded.

 

p4p this is the best thread ever

 

Which thread wins at a 157 1/2lb catchweight?

 

p4p moved to that division this thread loses half of its length and becomes much slower to read so I think Pascal Wagers "Styles make fights" thread wins it there though only if the thread exists as black and white version

 

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What?

 

exactly. That's how p4p works

 

So a P4P list is also useless then?

 

In the form they exist now, yes.

You could make a p4p list based on how good a fighter is compared to the rest of his division, but comparing who wins whom "p4p" just does not work

 

these chaps are right.

if you want to debate who would win between humberto gonzalez and nicolai valuev go right ahead, but know that it is fucking retarded.

 

List is perfectly fine. P4P match ups are retarded. PacMan vs Tyson P4P ? What the fuck does that mean ? Pacman is a heavyweight or is Tyson a Welterweight ? Or do they meet halfway at light heavy ? Fucking retarded shit.

 

Not necessarily. But p4p match ups are. Thus spake hutathustra,

 

It means...relative to their abilities for their weight class...how would they fare against one another? What's so hard to understand about that?

Anyway...I tend to see your point overall..better to stick to matchups at a given weight class.

 

So what does the list mean then?

Pacman above Wladimir Klitschko? Pacman as a Heavyweight or Wladimir as a Welterweight. You answer this for me...

 

List should mean which fighters are doing the best at the given time. It has nothing to do with who does better against whoever else.

 

AgREED.

 

SO that's your criteria for a P4P list? Achievement only?

So when Roy Jones had lost one fight due to DQ..and was fighting a bunch of relative no names, but still showcasing the dazzling skill that had seen him past Hopkins and Toney......while Tito was still undefeated and beating De La Hoya, Reid, Vargas and Joppy...YOU had Tito as the P4P over Jones?

 

if we refrain from doing anything thats retarded.. this would be such a boring place

 

No just this. You're still free to partake in as many Double L threads as you want.

 

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