LEFT HOOK - Boxing's DEADLIEST Punch....

Sean Reed....

It was implied by referencing Joe Frazier...who was known for his LEAD LEFT HOOK. Why don't you just admit your mistake and move on instead of trying to cover it up? No one's falling for it.

 

Typical. Never admits to being wrong. Just admit for once you don't know what you're talking about.

 

He knows he's wrong but he will not admit it.

 

Mark my words reed will never ever admit to being wrong on this. Being exposed for being wrong in front of everyone would burst his little 3rd person bubble and he won't allow it. Also look for him to start calling me names and find a way to reference Andrew Golota somehow because that's all he's got.

 

U're REACHING, STIFFord...Again, the Thread Itself was about Left Hooks...@ NO Point Did REED "Imply", Insinuate or even USE the Word "Lead Left Hook"...Point Out WHEN & WHERE Such a Thing Took Place OR Keep Trotting Along, Homey....




REED:hammert:

 

Fuck sake is this argument still going on?

 

If REED WAS "Wrong", he'd have No Problems Admitting it...Just as REED would have No Problems Admitting if he were a KNOWN RACIST BANNED from Fightbeat & Using an Alias...REED Seriously Doubts if YOU'D Recognize a Left Hook from a Triangle Choke, so Kindly REMOVE your Sorry Ass from the Discussion...The "Kaliber" (Or LACK Thereof) of your Debating Skills Precedes You....


REED:boohoo:

 

You are so lame :boohoo:

 

"Lame" Is when U have to Attach a Picture of a Hot Female to the End of Every 1 of your Posts, to Actually Get People to PAY ATTENTION to U....Move Along, POLE Smoker...


REED:kidcool:

 

Buddy buddy first off why is it that anytime anybody disagrees with you you always attack them ? To me that screams insecurities and childishness and as far as my signature picture. That picture is there because she is hot and I like seeing her when I post. Hell it's the best thing in this retarded "left hook" thread of yours !

 

REED Only "Attacks" Those that R INCAPABLE of Having CIVIL Discussions..."Childish"???..."Insecure"???...U Speak as if REED Got Racial w/a Poster, BANNED & then Created an ALIAS...

Now THAT is "Childish" & "Insecure"...

Do Fightbeat a Favor & Leave the Words OUT of your Posts, Henceforth...Just SILENTLY Add the Pic to Each Thread, Cause that's Been THE ONLY Redeeming Contribution U've EVER Made as "Kaliber" &/or "Boss"...


REED:mj:

 

First off buddy stop calling me racist. I am no such thing. My girlfriend is black. Now if I was racist that wouldn't exactly work out now would it ? And you say I am incapable of having a civil conversation ? All everybody is telling you is that you are wrong and that it was not a left hook and look what you do? You attack them. You're like a cornered animal that has nowhere else to go so you attack. Give it up. You're too old to be playing the forum bully anymore. Leave those days behind you Reed.

 

"Everybody" Who???:dunno:...Don't PRETEND that there's a Clear Consensus Here, Because there ISN'T...

MORE than a Few Posters have agREED w/REED...Hell, STIFFord Called it a "Cross" Even Though a Cross NEVER Actually Took Place & Double L Called it a "Straight Left" Despite the FACT that Martinez's Left Arm was Anything BUT Straight...

"Black Girlfriend"???...Yeah, OK...Why were U BANNED from Fightbeat Then???...


REED:boohoo:

 

I would love to know myself

 

If you want to be a layman, then yeah, it was a left-hook.

 

It wasn't a hook in any sense. Martinez's hand goes down after contact, not across.

It was an overhand left.

It wasn't even that close to what a layman would call a left hook from a southpaw. If it had been hookish, then the correct term is probably a roundhouse, although I might call it a looping left. But it was far more straight than it was looping which is why this is just a retarded thread altogether.

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Keep trying...SeanA! You likened the punch that knocked out Williams to a left hook. A LEFT HOOK to 99% of boxing fans/writers ("U're" the unfortunate 1%) is referring to a lead hook from an orthodox stance. Martinez does an OVERHAND left cross from a southpaw stance (the punch didn't travel in a quarter circle motion the way a hook does...in any event)..and you want to suddenly liken the punch to Joe Frazier's signature punch! :giggle:

I'm not making this up motherfucker, REED your opening post!

Now go take your 5 dollar bald Wesley snipes looking ass somewhere else before I make change....

 

Yes, PLEASE REED the Opening Post...REED was Rattling Off Left Hooks IN GENERAL & in NO Way, Shape or Form did REED COMPARE Left Hooks to Each Other...It Wasn't Implied OR Insinuated...

100% of Boxing Fans/Writers KNOW that a "Cross" Actually CROSSES The Body of the Fighter that Throwing the Punch, Before Or @ the Point of Contact...Martinez's Kill Shot NEVER Did that...

Though REED is MUCH Better Looking than Wesley Snipes, that's Still a More FAVORABLE Comparison than the HORSE Analogies that Get YOU All PISSY & MENSTRUAL...As WEAK MINDED & SENSITIVE as YOU R about the HORSE Shit, the Last Thing U Wanna Do is Engage REED in Smacktalk, STIFFord...

So Kindly Pull Back on Your REIGNS, Go Back to your STABLE, Eat Some HAY, Drink from your TROUGH & Calm the Fuck Down...Aight???...



REED:dancingBaby:

 

Ah....when someone is wrong....they run to smacktalk. YOU can use the horse attack as much as you want...if I were to meet your wife...even SHE'D tell you that I'm MUCH better looking than you. But I wont disrespect you like that homie and so I'd keep that confidential. :shadow:

Fact is....you opening post gave the impression to ALL who opened this thread that you put Martinez' overhand left in the same category as left hooks from Hatton, Robinson and Frazier.

So just admit it...Nino Brown.

 

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Why are you laughing at/encouraging REED's "diss" but then rolling your eyes at mine?

Best you stay out of it than pick sides...

 

This is right. In Martinez's case, the punch landed on Williams before it had a chance to finish its trajectory, but had the punch continued I am pretty sure it would have been a looping left hand (you can't be 100% sure he wouldn't have turned it over a bit and turned it into something looking more like a traditional hook, but I don't think so). This punch looked a bit like David Haye's sneaky looping right hand, where is head is sort of tucked down safely but the punch itself is an overhand punch, which leaves him (and Martinez) in better defensive position should they be countered or should they miss.

A hook is a more compact, short punch, and the elbow is supposed to be bent at something close to a 90 degree angle. The hook has a different physiology to it which allows it to generate power even though there is less extension than other longer punches. A looping right hand could be thought of like swinging a heavy ball on a chain. The fulcrum is the shoulder, and the fist is swung around with an extended arm so as to create power like a ball on a chain. Martinez's KO punch was more like that.

The hook is more like swinging an L-shaped piece of metal on a shorter chain. The forearm from elbow to fist creates something like a 2-force member, a straight line which directs the force of the punch right across an opponent's face or head or whatever. The rotation point is again primarily the shoulder, but as the punch develops the elbow is bending to a right angle, which allows greater acceleration at the fist even though the punch is more compact.

Martinez's punch did show him bending the elbow a bit, so I could see why someone would compare it to a hook. But I would say that most boxers probably bend their elbows at least a bit even when throwing looping (overhand) punches, as opposed to having perfectly straight arms, so in the real world this KO punch was an imperfect overhand or "looping" left hand, not a hook. Still a bit of an odd punch, though. Martinez has an interesting style, these sort of unusual angles and punches will give anybody trouble.

 

I've seen you use this before. Can you explain what it means exactly?

 

Exactly...

YOU Threw Down the Gauntlet by PLAGIARIZING Wesley Snipes' Line from "New Jack City"....So Apparently YOU were MENSTRUAL about Something....Mrs. REED ISN'T The Least Bit Into Beastiality OR EQUINE Love, so there's a 0% Chance that She'd Find YOU More Attractive than her Hubby, STIFFord...@ BEST, She'd Rub your Mane & Feed U a Sugarcube....

The NEXT Time Someone Likens REED's Features to that of a HORSE will B the 1st Time...Sorry, but there ISN'T a 4-Legged Creature on GOD's Green Earth, NOR a Dude that RESEMBLES a 4-Legged Creature, that's BETTER Looking than REED...

For the 3,000th Time, @ NO Point did REED COMPARE ANY Left Hook to Any Other Left Hook...This was a Thread about Left Hooks IN GENERAL...Take REED's Words as he PRESENTS them to U & U"ll B Fine...



REED:kidcool:

 

Thanks for the Dissertation, but REED Called it a "Looping Left Hook" on Fightnight....



REED:mj:

 

Nah, a "Cross" CROSSES...




REED:hammert:

 

On further inspection - and not to take sides in this interminable turf war on a postage stamp here - but it was indeed an over hand left. It just ended up landing wide because he stepped right as he threw it.

 

That's just It, within this Thread that SAME Punch has Been Called an "Overhand Left Hook" by REED (w/a Few Posters AGREEING), a "Straight Left" by Doub (w/NOBODY Else Agreeing) & a "Left Cross" by Sly (w/a Few Posters Agreeing)...

2 Days AFTER the Fact & There Still ISN'T a CLEAR Consensus...



REED:kidcool: