Joe Frazier? Won the biggest fight of all time without much of a jab to speak of... bobbing, weaving, left hook, beats ali 9 of 15 rounds.
on a random tangent - corrales developed an amazing short counter left hook after the mayweather fight that is unparalleled to me. defies logic as well because he never seemed to have leverage on it, but it was a devastating punch. did anyone have a punch like that in history? i might have to look back on diego's fights to point out where he used this punch, but i know you guys know this punch he had....
Oleg Maskaev. Shockingly, his two best wins came against a fighter with a great jab, in Hasim Rahman. William Joppy would have to be another one. A very average jab.
:giggle: Funny....his jab was down to nothing in some of his fights, like the last rounds vs that Mexican weed-surf dude. If you turned that fight on for the last few rounds you would have assumed Ike had no jab.
It was this punch that basically ended the first Castillo fight. Corrales had already turned the momentum of the fight with that earlier right hand and left hook, but the counter left hook over Castillo's right at the 2:20 mark took a ton out of Castillo. His body reaction says it all. <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/I0vSpewcMx4?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/I0vSpewcMx4?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>
Good thread; I can't recall this question ever being brought up. More than anything, I'd think this topic would illustrate just how important the jab is. I don't think there's too many top guys whose jab was crap. These guys come to mind as fighters who had some success in spite of their below average jabs: Tua Mickey Ward Lacey Areola McCullough
Good call; although, I wouldn't even say Joppy's jab was average, given that he was fighting at the championship level. His jab was effective at times because he kept it in his opponents' face, but technique wise, it was crap. And Trinidad showed how easily it could be countered.