Floyd vs. a prime Clottey

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  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Floyd Jr. and Sr. vs. the "homeless man's" Starling
     
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    WTF is a prime Clottey? The one who choked against Marg? Or the one that chocked against Cotto?

    Floyd by shut out. It'd be a horrible fight though. After a few rounds of being countered to death, Clottey would stop trying, and Floyd would be content to pot shot his way to a boring UD.
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    The one who beat Supa Zab. But how about Floyd Sr.? How does he do against Clottey?
     
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    He'd give Floyd a harder fight than he gave Pac, I think. Clottey's basic strategy of covering up then countering off of that is sure as fuck better suited to pot shotters than volume punchers like Pac or Margarito.

    Floyd 9-2-1.
     
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    You're crazy. That style is MADE for pot-shotters. Floyd 12-0.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Yup agree...Mayweather will win...but he will have a slightly tougher time than Pacquiao.

    One or two punches at a time by Mayweather won't be enough to make Clottey quit trying to win...

    9-3 Mayweather...
     
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    Pot shotters like Zab Judah you mean? You're wrong on this one, amigo.

    Clottey can be totally shut down by high volume (like I believe Arthur Abraham could be) because he waits for breaks in the other guys attack to respond. He's like a safety valve - when the other guys punching he isn't. Against Margarito he lost wide, IMO, but he at least had his moments & rounds because when Tony stops punching he usually stays inside and leans where Clottey could retort. But Clottey only retorted in the breaks in Tony's punching. Pac was a nightmare for him because when Pac stops punching he's also 3 feet feet out of range.

    Against a counter punching pot shotter like Judah he could walk him down, get into range and even start to lead since he didn't have the incoming switching his valve off. He's that rudimentary, tactically. Like so many modern fighters he's only been taught one style, period.

    Floyd would win because he's much better and smarter than Judah. Floyd would be sure to stand his ground and lead with shots before Clottey got into range, which Judah failed to - once Judah started to get rattled he just kept backing up and backing up, because he's dumb as cat shit. Floyd would fight him like Hopkins fought Pavlik, keeping distance then throwing enough to force Clottey to reset his feet and start again as soon as he came within punching range.

    But Clottey would have his moments IMO, much more so than against Pac because that kind of strategy would be tiring for a welterweight Floyd to keep up for 36 minutes. It's no longer his natural game & Floyd would have to settle for fighting him on the inside for periods to rest, at which points it'd be a more even fight (though Floyd would still get the better of 80% of exchanges on the inside, too). P4P a superfeatherweight Floyd would ass fuck Clottey inside the distance I think.
     
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    I stopped reading after this.

    Zab Judah is not a pot shotter. Being fast with a fancy style doesn't automatically make you a pot shotter.
     
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    I didn't mean it literally with Hut Hut...just a figure of speech. With YOU however..I mean it literally. :giggle:

    You're NUTS!
     
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    This.


    Zab was always more effective when leading.

    Probably because he couldnt handle being punched.
     
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    That's precisely what he fucking is. :bangh: His picture is right there in the dictionary beside the term.
     
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    We have to agree to disagree. Next you'll be saying that Shane Mosley is a pot-shotter too...
     
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    Pot shotting - Stay outside of range, feint, try to lower the pace with the threat of your speed, time the other guy coming into range with 1,2, maybe 3 punch combos which you wanna make count and move back out of range.

    Pure potshotter examples.

    Roy Jones (who was so good at it he could often follow up with multiple shots), Naseem Hamed, David Haye, Zab Judah.

    Frankly Floyd is so multi faceted he can't be so easily type cast, but I'd say his preferred game as an outfighter is to pot shot too. But he can and will adapt as he did against Judah and Mosley. His base, preferred style is however extremely similar to Judah's. He's just better at it (mainly because he can defend himself on the inside better thus take breathers whenever he wants) and more versatile to boot.

    don't be confused by the fact that Zab has an aggressive streak and will hunt a guy at the drop of a hat when he thinks he smells blood. That's his temprement but not his base style and isn't something he displayed at any point against Clottey which is the relevant fight here.
     
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    Boring fight.

    Mayweather via UD.
     
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    calling Clottey the poor man's Starling is an insult to Marlon Starling
     

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