David Haye is on the cover of Fight Night: Champion

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  1. Horse

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    It makes PERFECT sense for the UK cover. I was laughing at the bolded part.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Actually you're an idiot, you fucktard.

    Round 4 is crap. Round 3 had some silly elements, and was too slow and clunky, but overall actually conveyed the feeling of boxing far more than round 4, and was more tactical.

    Round 4 looked promising because it was faster, the boxers moved faster, punched faster etc, which is accurate, seeing as world class fighters are generally obscenely fast.

    But it's just crap. Body punch spam, jab spam, it has no tactics and skill compared to round 3, and just feels off. Doesn't feel like boxing.

    Calling it too arcadey would be a disservice to incredible Arcade games like Street Fighter 4 which take a huge amount of skill, tactics, reaction speed, matchup experience etc.

    Round 4 is the worst in the series.
     
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    Yes...but in the UK, as far as they are concerned, Haye IS the champ, the Klitschkos just happen to hold some belts or something.
     
  4. Horse

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    I always was partial to Knockout Kings 2000. The one that had that rap video in there by some dude named "O" which had Shane Mosley and Floyd in it. Damn I was playing the shit out of that video back in the day! lmao

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    Knockout Kings was awesome. Did anyone unlock the bear? He was badass.
     
  6. Horse

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    yeah the UK papers are biased as shit. lol. I saw an article the other day about how Wlad was "jeopardizing" the fight with Haye cause he said he was the "PR Champ" and the "Champion of London".
     
  7. The Genius

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    Knockout kings was the best. I hope they have a straight right hand that isn't just a glorified jab this time. It weird using Hearns or LL and knowing their best punch packs no more wallop than a jab in those games.
     
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    I totally agree about the right hand.

    That's one fault with ALL Fight Night games, but especially round 4.

    For many fighters, their straight right or straight left is their best punch, their hardest punch, yet in FN it's basically a meaty jab, it doesn't feel like a power shot at all, and doesn't do anywhere near as much damage as an uppercut or hook.
     
  9. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    My favourite Boxing game of all-time, too.

    One thing which really stands out in my memory is how deep the Roster was for that game. You had so many legends --- Arguello, Liston, Dempsey, Holmes, Louis, Whitaker, etc...some of those have been seldom seen (or not even seen once since) that title. That song by O is still on my iPod! Very catchy!

    A lot of fun to play tactically as the super-quick Extra-Terrestrial, or punch holes right through your rivals with the super-powerful Gargoyle, too!
     
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    You obviously can't play the game you idiot. Round 3 was ridiculous. All these super punches..that take 5 seconds to throw but when you land one the other person is knocked out. I mean, come the fuck on. Also you have styles like "Judge jab" in which you take off 1/5th of the opponents energy with one jab. Plus the computer was too easy to beat. Round 4 has genuine tactics and skill and you are inbred.
     
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    Round 4 is by far the best in the series. Its just unplayable online because of the spam glitches.
     
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    He clearly plays it online. Against the computer or an opponent interested in playing it as a boxing match its superb. The body punch spam thing makes it unplayable online though. It blows my fucking mind that so many people are out there spending their time exploiting a glitch in a game to ruin it just to win a computer game against a stranger.
     
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    Isn't the counter punch a tactic against the body punch spam? I haven't played much online admittedly though.
     
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    Nah, you're a retard who knows nothing about games or boxing.

    You should stick to my little pony or ice skating.

    Round 4 has no genuine tactics, just body punch spam. It's awful.

    Round 3 has genuine tactics for skilled players, of which you obviously have no concept of. It's all about the slipping and countering and parrying. Most good players don't even use haymakers etc much, because they are so fucking easy to afford.

    Fucktard.
     
  15. The Genius

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    Wow I hated round 3. I think 4 is better but had the most fun with 2. Buttons and stick control felt the most natural for me plus if timed correctly you could drop guys with one punch.

    I really hated the stun punch and haymakers in 3. I didn't use them but it was pretty cheap when used by the AI.

    I still don't think the old knockout kings has been beaten for gameplay yet.
     
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    I like Round 4 better than Round 3 by a substantial margin (er... online aside since I stopped because of ridiculous body spamming)
     
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    I liked 4 better than 3. 3 better than 2....etc.

    They all improve on the previous version. Yes, there are imperfections that can be exploited, but that's the case with every game. And each year, they try and make improvements to prevent that.

    The game isn't perfect, but it's the best around.

    My problem with this new version is that they're hyping it up much like Don King's Prizefighter was hyped. That was the worst money I've ever spent.


    One note....I hate when they put old timers in the game. I'd rather they put more current fighters.
     
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    Supposedly they released the roster.....


    “Butterbean” Eric Esch
    Chad Dawson
    Cristobal Arreola
    Danny Jacobs
    David Haye
    Erislandy Lara
    Fernando Vargas
    James Leija
    Kendall Holt
    Kevin Kelley
    Peter Manfredo Jr.
    Tim Bradley
    Zab Judah

    PREVIOUS FIGHTERS RETURNING IN FIGHT NIGHT CHAMPION
    Anthony Mundine
    Bernard Hopkins
    Billy Dib
    Carlos Monzon
    Diego Corrales
    Eddie Chambers
    Emanuel Augustus
    Evander Holyfield
    George Foreman
    Jake LaMotta
    Jermain Taylor
    Joe Calzaghe
    Joe Frazier
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Kelly Pavlik
    Lennox Lewis
    Manny Pacquiao
    Marvin Hagler
    Miguel Cotto
    Mike Tyson
    Muhammad Ali
    Nonito Donaire
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Pernell Whitaker
    Ricky Hatton
    Robert Guerrero
    Roberto Duran
    Ronald Wright
    Roy Jones Jr.
    Sergio Mora
    Shane Mosley
    Sonny Liston
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Thomas Hearns
    Tommy Morrison
    Victor Ortiz
    Vinny Paz
    Vitali Klitschko
    Wladimir Klitschko
    Yuriorkis Gamboa
     
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    Round 3 was absolutely terrible. MWS is a moron. Round 4 is the best of the series to date no doubt. Stun punch and haymakers, judge jab of round 3 almost killed the series, not to mention the uselessness of the AI.

    Round 4 is very realistic and the best game to date.

    The KO kings series was at it's best with 2001 on the PS2 and was very good, but they were not as tactical as the fight night series as a whole.
     
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    Useless additions for the most part, except Haye, Vargas and Judah.

    What about Mayweather, Holmes, Louis, Marciano, Dempsey, Hamed, Tszyu
     
  21. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    What is this Body Spam business people are talking about with game 4 online?
     
  22. Hut*Hut

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    Again....

    It's great playing against the computer. These problems only apply online. And you're coming across unbelievably obnoxiously again.....
     
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    Guys online exploit a glitch where you can get in close and button mash with body punches and you can't get away or block it or counter it.

    It's awful. I don't play online unless it's against somebody I know wants a proper game. In which instances or playing against the computer on a really high level it's a brilliant game.
     
  24. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    I will purchase the new Champion game, providing it has done away with the stick control for punches, which replaced buttons, in Round 4. That I found utterly unworkable, to the point I just decided to trade the game in.

    As long as buttons represent punches in the new title again, I'm in.
     
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    They won't be Im afraid, analogue controls here to stay. I suggest you stick with it though, it's cool once you get used to it. Good game.
     
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    That's very disappointing. Why they cannot make it an optional thing, with both systems, I do not know, but I do know that I won't be buying any game with that control system. I just absolutely hated every minute of it.

    That's rough, it sounds as if I have played my last Boxing game. I'm not really an MMA fan, but the PS3 UFC game is a lot more fun than Fight Night, IMO, even if I don't count myself a fan of the actual sport.
     
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    Nah, they'll always allow for a button control option. TPC is a pointless endeavour. The way to limit endless button mashing is by making the game more tactical, not introducing a new system of throwing punches.
     
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    Hut hut, of course they'll have buttons.

    In round 4, after lots of complaints etc, they released a patch allowing button support.

    I can basically guarantee you that this game has button support.

    Genius - don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Round 3 is particularly good, I think 1 and 2 are better. But it's better and more tactical than round 4.

    Round 4 feels strange, the punches feel weak, they don't feel as though they have as much impact as the other games in the series. It feels too simple too, doesn't capture the feel of boxing as much as the others. Plus body punch spam.

    Destruction - you're a retard, clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Round 3 isn't particularly good, but it's better than Round 4, especially with 2 skilled players, the type of players who don't stand there like idiots getting hit with telegraphed haymakers.

    Fucktard.
     
  29. Arben

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    I don't understand how people complain about the TPC. Learn to push a stick.

    Body spamming is not as prevalent as people claim it is.

    Punches do have less impact, but that's so fight's don't end in three rounds.
     
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    When the roster of 54 boxers was released last week much of the reaction focused on names that weren’t included. Of course every boxer has to be signed to their own deal which is a difficult and time consuming process. Fight Night Champion producer Brian Hayes posted on the game’s official forum some details on the process which makes for an interesting read.

    It’s that time of year again. You win some, you lose some.

    I’m not happy about it either. This is what Fight Night and KO Kings has gone through every year and it’s never easy. Contracts are signed with fighters for a certain period of time and when they expire, we can’t be certain we’ll be able to reach another agreement with any of them.

    - Some boxers were signed to deals over 3 years ago when things were pretty different, financially-speaking.

    - All of the boxers that we lost were contacted, some of them several times by myself personally.

    - I’m not kidding when I say this, sometimes we just don’t hear back. Even from people we worked with previously.

    - I personally had communications with one boxer – and his three different managers – over the course of 6 months.

    - Arturo Gatti died under very suspicious circumstances. Sorry that we weren’t able to re-do that contract in the wake of that. We would have signed him for an extra 2 years way back if we had known he was going to die.

    - Some guys we had to drop because of a lawsuit last year, you might recall.

    - Sometimes we have have verbal agreements in place with guys we really want and because of time-pressures we spend thousands of dollars making them. Only to have them make further demands, attempt to renegotiate, or simply fail to send us signed paperwork. So poof! They’re off the roster and we just burned that money. I can tell you how much Mike looooooves that.

    - Some guys just have unrealistic demands.
    Now, I know you probably don’t care about this. The game doesn’t have some of the guys you want, end of story. But like I’ve been saying for years, its not like boxing is chock-full of stand-up guys accustomed to a strict code of business ethics – nor is it populated by an abundance of athletes with a realistic perception of their brand value and/or mainstream appeal.

    NOTE: Some guys are absolutely great. Very professional and very helpful.
    All I’m saying is, we try our best and we didn’t make the business of professional boxing an absolute clusterf**.



    Clearly the frustration is coming through here and that is understandable. There were many comments made about Floyd Mayweather not being included, and though EA Sports isn’t going to single him out or call him out publicly, his demands have been beyond absurd. Any sports game that doesn’t have a player’s association of some sort faces the issue of negotiating on an individual level and that will result in many cases with success but the inability to include others that the development team and gamers desired.



    http://www.pastapadre.com/2010/12/13/why-some-boxers-are-missing-from-fight-night-champion
     

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