My thoughts on tonight

I'll bet it was Meldrick Taylor. He's such a wind-up, that kid.

 

He's not a million miles away. He just sucks in every other way.

 

Yes he is.

Prime Jones, Leonard, the 130-135 Camacho, prime Mosley, and Meldrick Taylor were on another planet from Khan handspeed wise. And in terms of P4P... Tyson & Ali were on another handspeed planet from him as well.

Khan is not even as fast as a prime Oscar.

 

PRECISELY

 

jeeeezus, that is some fanboy shit right there

 

My thoughts on the night are that Khan is a good fighter and that he won the fucking fight.

I don't think, and have never said, he could beat the likes of Mayweather or Pacquiao. Although the latter fight will never happen, and I DO think he can be competitive and win rounds against Floyd before being stopped late.

My other thoughts, is that anyone at 168 better move up or down, coz Chunkys coming...

 

I'm the biggest Kahn hater on the site alongside Hut Hut, but let's be objective here, he does have incredibly fast hands.

His hands are a close second behind Pacquiao today, significantly faster than Floyd's, and almost as quick as a prime Leonard, Jones, Mosley etc in handspeed.

His feet aren't particularly quick, but he has the second fastest hands in boxing today, clearly.

The difference between him, and the likes of Pacquiao and Floyd is he doesn't think and react as fast as they do, he just has very fast hands, that's it basically.

 

It's funny because I am probably one of the biggest Khan fans on the board, but whilst I think he is top 5 for fastest hands, Pacquiao is quite a fair bit faster imo, and Dirrell is faster too.

 

Pacquiao clearly has faster hands yes, close but clear.

His straight left, right hook are so fast, and his combos too.

Do you know the difference between Manny and the likes of Khan and other fast handed fighters?

Manny throws power punches fast, he's like Tyson in that respect. He can reel off 5 power punches in under a second, all proper, meaty, accurate power shots, not shoeshine flurries like Khan.

Honestly though I think Khan has the edge over Dirrell in handspeed, Dirrell is probably 3rd today.

 

Pop in a tape of Leonard-Green, or Leonard-Price, and tell me that Khan is almost as fast so I can laugh at you.

Pop in a tape of the circa 2000-2001 Mosley and tell me Khan is almost as fast, so I can laugh at you.

Pop in ANY prime Jones tape, and tell me Khan is almost as fast.... so I can smh and cut my laptop off.

Khan has VERY good handspeed.... but its not amazing at all.

Like I said.... prime Oscar was faster. A prime Judah was also faster.

Hell.... much as I HATE Andre Berto... his hands are at least AS fast as Khan's.... maybe even a lil faster.

 

Bute is up there in hand-speed. Judah remains quick, at least early on.

 

Nah.... Khan is faster than both those guys. Judah isnt NEARLY as fast as he once was.

The Judah of 00-05 was faster than Khan.

 

Pop a tape in yourself, the difference isn't huge. Pacquiao, plus all the guys you mentioned are faster, but not MASSIVELY so.

If Khan were to fight them, it's not like his hands would look slow in comparison.

I completely disagree with you, I think Berto's handspeed is nothing exceptional. Khan is clearly faster. Even though Dirrell is much bigger, I think he is also quicker than Berto.

Khan's handspeed starts to wane as the fight goes in. In the early rounds, he clearly has the second fastest hands today after Manny.

 

Berto and Khan have comparable handpspeed. Both are shitty technical fighers who ONLY get by because they have fast hands. Khan is NOT clearly faster than Berto.

Look at the combo Berto put that Rodriguez dude away with to win the title. Granted the guy was a bum, but the uppercut he threw was still a damn impressive show of handspeed.

But neither Khan or Berto are in the same handspeed league as Leonard, Jones, and Mosley. Those guys had handspeed that literally left you in awe.

Khan's handspeed is "Damn.... he's pretty fast."

Prime Leonard and Mosley's handspeed was "Woooowwww"

Prime Jones.... really no words for it. You just dropped your jaw, and shook your head when a young Jones let his hands go.

 

I really like Jones as a commentator and he should be first pick to replace Merchant. He's one of the few people there that actually speaks the truth. I can't stand how Steward always wants to sound like he predicted it or everything is exactly how he said it was going to go. Fuck you Emmanuel.

I'd really like to see Khan and Marquez clash. It would be another good setup for the third fight with Manny if he wins. Khan has good speed but would be countered to the canvas.

Cupey

 

Your letting your hate cloud your judgement.

Believe me, I hate Khan too. He is annoying, he has the IQ of a fencepost in and out of the ring, and he is becoming overrated.

But let's face it, the only reason he is as successful as he is, is handspeed.

That's basically all he has. He's not a good boxer, he's not a good puncher, he doesn't have a good chin, his stamina is nothing special.

He has range and handspeed, and half decent timing/accuracy.

He is not as fast as any of the fighters mentioned, but he CLEARLY has the second fastest hands today behind Manny.

Berto's handspeed impressed me when I first saw him fight, and Dirrell too as much of a BITCH as he is, but Khan's hands a notch faster than both of them.

 

I hate Khan & Berto equally. But Berto doesnt get the insane hype that Khan does.

Khan AND Berto both have faster hands than Dirrell. What Dirrell has is much better REFLEXES than Khan and Berto.

Dirrell is the biggest bitch in the sport, but technically he's alot better skilled than Berto and Khan. He's just a bitch.

And your selling Berto's handspeed short. The little Hatian fraud if nothing else has VERY fast hands. The reason I might put his speed ahead of Khan's is because Berto commits his full power into every combination, and is still fast. Whereas alot of Khan's combos have slaps mixed in.

Now... I will say that overall Khan is more athletic than Berto... cause Berto's footspeed is nothing special.

But handspeed wise... I'd give Berto a slight edge. Its debatable though.

What ISNT debatable is Khan being as fast as Leonard, Mosley, and Jones. And no, I dont think he's even close.

Those 3 had freakish, super special type handpseed. And not only were they alot faster than Khan... but alot better naturally coordinated as well.

 

I think Khan is a good boxer, with decent power. But he wasn't good enough to beat Maidana.

 

but he did beat him....

 

I thought he got his ass handed to him. He had success early, but took a beating for most of the fight.

Khan did prove he has heart and a decent chin, the two things thought to be his biggest weaknesses.

What's interesting is that it was his inability to out-box Maidana, not his chin or his heart, that caused him the fight.

 

..and Andrade would have beaten Calzaghe, we get it

 

Well you can at least admit that your prediction that Khan would destroy Maidana easily was completely wrong.

 

Yeah it was wrong, but very nearly right in that first round. Still, I got the winner right. I'll also admit Maidana is alot better than I initially thought, was impressed with his footspeed.

 

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Class acts :bears:

 

If you though Kahn proved his chin by getting hurt badly everytime he recieved a semi-clean punch you can join Roach and Amir in the lonesome club.

 

I think Khan's outside-the-ring performances are some of the most scripted bullshit ever...this desperate attempt to pass a dull-as-ditchwater kid off as some sort of a bright spark with a polite cultured nature is obvious and weak.

Every move Khan has made since the amateurs has been stage-managed and carefully manicured to the point of a brilliant finished shine.

I don't want to traduce Khan any more than is fair- but Cinderella had less stuff mapped out for her.

The Union Jack pants, land of hope and glory entrance music after 7/7 bombings, the fake rematch with Kindelan followed by screaming Steve Bunce and his "Cubans Don't Take Dives- They Rang Castro After the Fight" [he said that, I shit thee not] the televised {but of course} pre-fight dressing room cock-swap with Ricky Hatton before Hatton fought Sucre Oliveira, the entire preposterous notion that Khan was forced out of Blighty by envious fascists {leading one to ponder how Warren got left behind....:dunno: :scratcher:- at least Hatton had the balls to say his break with Warren was just that, a break}....

...then there is other stuff, like what happened before he fought Michael Gomez {another one of his safe bets in which Khan was floored off a left hook and staggered with a body shot}....Gomez, whose real name is Armstrong, {has no formal education but a load of gyspy cuteness- what we call in Ireland a "Cute Whore"} had gone on TV to claim that Khan's former trainer, Oliver Harris {gee I guess that was down to racists too, and had nothing to do with Khan, and more pertinently his family, being a bunch of domineering money grubbers} was now working with him {Gomez}, which was not the case.

Khan got all flexed over it, the media ate it up, and then, when the dust had settled, Gomez skipped the final press conference leading to this:

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Typical Khan. "The media get the tickets sold".........and he was at it again {this now 2-3 years after the above interview} when he said "I hope Sky liked it, I hope HBO liked it"....

 

Here is Wladimir being compared to Floyd Mayweather, anyways

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I think Gamboa is faster than Khan.

 

No they're just on another planet in every other way. Khan sucks but he's fast as runny shit.

 

Yes. Gamboa probably has the best raw handspeed in the sport. Just not nearly as accurate as Manny. My top 5 handspeed currently would be:

1. Gamboa
2. Manny
3. Berto
4. Khan
5. Dirrell