Yup :giggle:
Stop trying to "shut down" the discussion :limp:
Irish makes a point which underscores the difficulties... Wilder is currently an "Elite" heavyweight... So if we ask if Felix Trinidad was an...
I think Sly just called you an Uncle Tom, X
Great should be set aside for extreme exclusivity Elite, to me, would seem to indicate top class relative to contemporaries
I would think "great" would be more exclusive than "elite"
Some definitions have been offered up and those have been questioned... In other words, it's an ongoing process
Fuck off... I made the point I wanted to make ... Defining key terminology is an important first step in any discussion... You don't like my post,...
Hamsho beats the dogshit out of Cotto
Basically 30, 25, 35 don't mean a whole lot out of context... At 18, Benitez and Cuevas were stars, champions... By 25 they were irrelevant... At...
30 can be comatose (Wilfred Benitez, Saad, Cuevas) or it can be vintage (Joe Brown, Hopkins) ... Biological age in sports but especially boxing...
We don't though, that's why there's the argument
It's just amusing that Caveman Lee was included there
The Donaire is washed up
Until there's an actual tangible definition of "elite", all discussion is pointless
Khan eventually gets stopped
I like how Caveman Lee is thrown in there with the others as if he belongs... Hilarious stuff
No, "Trinidad had illegal foreign objects for fists" is a perfect example of a bullshit argument Larry Holmes was at his best in the 1970s
Holmes was past prime when he was in the latter stages of his reign and Witherspoon had a perfect style to trouble him
point is, you fucking wankers, "elite" is open to interpretation How many boxers are there in the world at a given time? tens of thousands? If...
yes when the belts still meant something
Yeah this is pretty much a pick-em ... Guaranteed KO either way
If Bruno is still upright after 5, I like his chances a lot
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