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  1. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

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    The man is amazing. It's almost unfair for the challangers to fight this guy. They should let them fight him 2-1 . I wanna see him fight Chael Sonnen next once Sonnen dry humps his way to victory over Mr. G.I Joe. Silva Sonnen 2 is the only fight worth mentioning for Anderson at 185. GSP is too small he would get smashed. Jon Jones is too big for Anderson which kinda sucks too. I wish Silva was 26 not 36 it's unfortunate that his career is almost over and those amazing reflexes will be gone any day now and when he loses or if he loses it won't be because he met someone better than himself but rather age cought up to him.

    I just hope they don't do Silva Bisping in England or something because that would just be a waste of everyone's time. Also Silva Hendo is another fight that's a waste of time Hendo found his grove lately at 205 fighting cans in Strikeforce let him stay and do his thing there and one day move him to ufc for a fight with Jon Jones but forget the Silva rematch. Silva already kicked his ass easily first time around there is intrigue there at all.
     
  2. Haymaker

    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Silva could fight Shogun, Jackson, Evans, etc. Fuck friendship.
     
  3. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He'S clearly the number 1 p4p. He destroys the type of challenger that GSP fight timidly against
     
  4. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Dude, that is a perfect 2 sentence synopsis of exactly why Silva is the unquestioned P4P king.

    Silva almost got 'fired' for fighting the safe way that GSP ALWAYS fights. Now Silva just destroys guys.

    People can discount Belfort and Okami as challengers but Silva made them look like local fight club fighters instead of the world class talents that they are.

    The first time I see GSP destroy a Jake Shields or Diaz caliber challenge, I might change my tune. But he won't. He will fight the smart, effective and safe game plan. There isn't a chance in hell he chooses to stand with Diaz in order to be impressive.
     
  5. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Hell, i'd like to see GSP at least destroy Dan Hardy type of opponent

    I personally don't think that GSP get past Diaz, who will force the pace too much for GSP to handle. He'llforce him to fight every seconds of the fight, and I don't think that he'll be able to handle it mentally. I think that GSP is looking for a way out presently, as he clearly as problem dealing with the stress that comes with being one of the headliner of the UFC. When the going gets tough, I think he will fold quite easily (he almost folded against shield in a fight that was far from grueling)
     
  6. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    I honestly think he wanted to quit against Shields. The way he talked in the corner wasn't the voice of a champion. It was the voice of a guy wanting out.

    That being said, I love Diaz but his take down defense is so dismal that GSP can easily get him to the mat. Diaz is a great BJJ fighter off his back so it's not a completely safe proposition for GSP, but it's his best choice. Otherwise Diaz crushes him standing.
     
  7. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    same here
     
  8. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    while i think silva's the greater fighter, that whole p4p debate is still silly. gsp still wins fights against top opposition. and imo, fighters at 170 are much better than guys at 185.

    yea, gsp might not destroy guys like shields or any guys he's fought in his last few fights, but he still won them convincingly. silva got worked four 4 and half rounds against sonnen, a guy who's lost to lesser guys in the past.

    just because one guy looks better than the other when he wins fights doesn't necessarily make him the better fighter overall.

    stylistically, i still think gsp has a very good chance to beat silva. i'd pick silva for sure, but it wouldnt surprise me if gsp was able to take him down and hold him there for 5 rounds.
     
  9. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think that 170 is a rather weak division myself, probably weaker than 185. Tough it's gotten better with the resurgence of Diaz, and the emergence of Condit
     
  10. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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  11. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    He kept repeating that he couldn't see out of his eye. Greg Jackson basically told him to quit saying it. He told him he was going to have to fight with one eye.

    It wasn't as much what he said as the way he continued to complain. And the reaction of Greg Jackson underscored the fact that GSP needed to be pushed to fight through the eye issue.

    Jackson was smart enough to realize if the ref or ring doctor hears you can't see out of one eye, they might move to stop the fight.
     
  12. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    170 and 185 are pretty similar in terms of talent at the elite, top 5-top 8 level. But theres a lot of wrestlers at 170 and it's deeper.

    But GSP isn't going to lose anytime soon at 170. I don't really think there's a really great fighter outside of GSP in that weight division.
     
  13. Trplsec

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    TFK made a great point at Boxing Fanatics. If you removed Silva from the equation, all of a sudden 185 looks great with competitive fights and the belt probably changing hands often.

    In all honesty, if not for Silva, guys like Maia, Belfort, Sonnen, Okami, Palhares, Stann, Munoz, Belcher, etc all battle it out with each other with a mixed bag of results.
     
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    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    Sorta like the Scenario w/Nazim Richardson & Sugar Shane, During the Pacquiao Fight???...

    Greg Jackson has Obviously SEEN that Side of GSP Before...Coaching/Training an Athlete MENTALLY is Very Overlooked in Sports...If U're WEAK Mentally, it DOESN'T Matter How Good U R, Physically...Jackson's Probably MORE Valuable to GSP Mentally than Physically...Where was that Firaz Guy @???...

    GSP's STYLE of Fighting, in the Post-Serra Era, has Always Indicated a Level of INSECURITY within...This Between Rounds Exchange you just Spoke of CONFIRMS it...

    REED:Lok:
     
  15. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I think Sonnen would probably hang onto it.
     
  16. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Not a chance. Maia made quick work of him, and I would guess Palhares would have a shot.

    Sonnen taps more naturally than Gregory Hines.
     
  17. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It's disgusting that so many people just want to throw Sonnen back in with Silva. Fuck that, he needs to beat some top guys and earn his way back up. Even if he wins his next fight, it's Brian Stann, that shouldn't earn you a title shot. I doubt they planned to give Leban one if he beat Stann. Sonnen needs to quit clinging to his almost victory, he tapped, that's all there is to it, what ever he did before that point means jack shit the moment you quit.
     
  18. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    A near win over a champ is often a good reason to keep a guy at the top of the challenger list.

    A PED-using piece of shit cheater should be put at the END of the challenger line, however, and not see a title fight for years.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It's like everyone forgot Sonnen was well above the allowable limit of testosterone for that fight. All they remember was what he almost did. Not to mention that Silva was also clearly injured going into that fight.
     
  20. BOSS

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    Very strongly disagree. Sonnen was a couple of minutes away from being champion. Yes he lost but for 4.5 rounds he DOMINATED the unbeatable invincible 14-0 in the UFC pound for pound greatest fighter ever. He doesn't need to beat anyone to get his shot. Based on the first fight alone he should get a shot with no questions asked. Being Brian Stann is just an icing on the cake . Stann's been on the roll lately destroying some pretty good fighters. Once Sonnen beats Stann the Silva rematch will become a hugely anticipated fight that will bring in big numbers for the UFC. Bottom line is this Silva Sonnen 2 is the only fight that matters at 185. By far.
     
  21. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    Whether is was Steroid Induced or Not, the FACT is, NOBODY has Come as Close to Beating Anderson Silva (in the UFC) as Sonnen has...Silva Lost Virtually EVERY Minute of EVERY Round...

    You Can Certainly Argue that Sonnen DOESN'T Deserve the Spotlight or the Payday, but that's Really THE ONLY Intriguing Fight Left for Silva, @ 185 (Especially if GSP Doesn't Move Up)...

    REED Equates it to Margarita vs. Pac...No, Margarita DIDN'T Deserve the Chance, but Watching the BEATING he Took was WELL WORTH it to REED....REED has a Feeling that Silva WAXES Sonnen in a RE, which is Just What Sonnen Deserves...



    REED:hammert:
     
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    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    REED:mj:
     
  23. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Real nice to see you guys so accepting of a guy cheating and getting fucking rewarded for it. What a joke. I guess they should just make steroids legal, since you guys obviously believe they are worthless, and that Chael just performs like that all the time. Give me a break.
     
  24. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I'd have no problems with steroids being legalized.
     
  25. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    You know, I wouldn't give a shit either if they were legal. As long as everyone was able to use them, it's a level playing field. When only one guys in a fight is on something it is not a level playing field and thus I am not giving Sonnen an ouch of credit for his drug induced perfomace. It's as simple as that.
     
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    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    But the Joke is on Sonnen...

    Even Though he Cheated, he Still LOST!!!...& He'll Lose CONVINCINGLY in a RE...



    REED:Lok:
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    My only point is I don't want to see him get a huge pay day and the chance to fight for the title for almost beating Silva while on PEDs. Nate Marquartd just got fired for the same shit, and he didn't even fight anyone while on PEDs, he only attempted to.
     
  28. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    I'm with you dude. In fact, I was a huge Sonnen fan as he came over after beating Filho in the WEC.

    My stance has always been pretty harsh about any illegal performance enhancer. A fighter should be suspended the first time and banned for life the second time.

    In Sonnen's case, I would love to see how he performs against Silva WITHOUT any help. Personally I think he hardly lands a take down and gets knocked senseless within a couple rounds.

    But my biggest problem with Sonnen is his mouth. You can't shut the guy up about Brazil, the Nogs, Silva and almost anything. But where's his mouth when it comes to addressing his blatant cheating? The dude is like a church mouse.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I was beginning to think I was the only one. respect my brotha.
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    That is one good thing about the UFC and the virtual monopoly they have. Dana and co. can lowball the shit out of Sonnen. He doesn't much else for options. I'd love to see Silva smash him up and have Chael walking out with a paltry amount of money in exchange.
     

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