Have to go with Tyson, not just because he's more proven but also based on styles. Ike stood right in front of Tua and took some of his best shots proving he had very dependable chin. However Tyson hits harder, faster and more importantly has better aresenal of shots. I can see Mike slamming uppercuts while Ibeabuchi is up close. It would be a really exciting fight for the first 6-7 rounds. If Mike doesn't KO him within that time frame i think he wins on points.
Agreed! I dont even think it would be all that competive. Mike would beat his ass throughout and either stop him, or win VERY clearly on points.
Hey...I'm a bigger Tyson fan than most and i would pick Prime Mike over anyone not named Ali or possibly Evander Holyfield...but Ike Ibeabuchi did have the style and abilities to beat a prime Tyson even though he's clearly not as good. Reasons: His chin, workrate and power combination.
Bro.... Tua beat him. Tyson was superior to Tua in nearly every way. Your serverly unerrating Mike, or overrating Ike in this matchup. Tyson would own him. Comment the Ike-Bowe thread I put up. Ike has a better chance in that one.
Yeah...and good point and all but Tua takes it better in a back and forth war than Tyson does IMO...and that's the difference here. Ike will make it a war.
Based on what? Tyson's speed, and arsenal would be way too much for Ike. Ike would make it a war, but that plays right into Mike's hands. Also Ike never clinched vs Tua, even after getting buzzed. Who ever beat Tyson w/o clinching him? Answer. Nobody.
Completely agreed. And I had Ibeabuchi pulling out the win vs. Tua. But we're talking a prime Tyson here and I think Mike's handspeed, repertoire and body work give Ibeabuchi all sorts of problems. Great fight but one that Tyson wins. Peace.
Out of Tyson's losses, clinching was only a factor in Holyfield I. Clinching helped fighters to survive full rouns with Tyson but nobody beat him by clinching
People tend to forget that the Tyson of 88, for as fast, ferocious and powerful as he was.....he still hadn't faced anything like the 97 version of Ike. The division sucked out loud. Everyone was afraid of Mike and he had most fights won before he even entered the ring. And as we later found out......when Tyson's plan A didn't work,...he had no plan B. Years later we found out that Tyson didn't like to be bullied, ala Holyfield. Ike would have been too big, too powerful and too much for that version of Mike Tyson....imo.
MAYBE with the left, (although I dissagree), but Mike hit harder and faster with everything else AND would land way more.
left hook i'm pretty sure Tuas is more lethal and the better one punch KO punch - i agree with the rest of what u said, though. Tyson is much faster and the all around way better fighter.
Word. Tua produced almost all his big wins with the left hook. Tyson had much better arsenal all-around, but some highlight reel KOs over tomato cans don't prove that he had the better left hook
From what I saw comparing Lewis' respective fights against Tua and Tyson, Tua looked like he could've taken Lewis out with 1 big left hook. Tyson to me didn't give quite the same impression with his own left hook and even when he landed, Lewis took it very easily. I don't know, I think Tua has more strength and weight behind his shot than Tyson does.:dunno: Tyson is the much faster and superior boxer though.
So what NON tomato cans did Tua one punch KO with his left hook? I you say John Ruiz, then I'll counter with Carl Williams and Tony Tubbs.
Contrary to popular belief....Tyson wasn't as powerful post-prison as he was pre-prison and he was close to being shot in the Lewis fight.
Granted, Tua did not beat very many top-10 heavyweights, but guys like Danell Nicholson, Fres Oquendo (it was a stoppage but a left hook did the damage), Michael Moorer, Obed Sullivan and Darrol Wilson were seen as solid opponents at the time
Pinklon Thomas? Tyson fired all his best punches to him. Berbick also took many blows and finally went down delayed after punch. Biggs got beat up round after round. Tyson is by FAR the more effective (at least proven) KO artist but that is not the question here
Tyson hated resistance. When guys fought back with some intensity, he didn't look like much plus he sucked in a clinch. Ike would close his space, stay in his chest and drive him backwards into the ropes constantly.
EXCEPT heart. Tyson is/was by far a much worse quitter than Tua ever was. Tua has shown a much better ability to still be in fights late, after being behind or in trouble early. How many fights has Tyson won if he failed to take control early? Tyson has also shown a worse tendency to quit or become discouraged if an opponent takes away the early control he's had in a fight. Tyson's superior handspeed/power to Tua would give him a better shot at scoring an early KO, but if Ike can stand up to those punches and stay in there more than a couple rounds, he should be able to break Tyson down even easier than he did to Tua, and probably even get a stoppage. And despite having such an aggressive style, Tyson never really learned how to fight on the inside or how to counter another opponent who can fight well on the inside (as his fights with Holyfield exposed)... and Ike would be able to match whatever "dirty tactics" Tyson brings and then surpass them. Tyson was also a near sitting duck for uppercuts on the inside, as his fight with Quick Tillis first exposed. He just never fought a guy with some decent power in his uppercuts (and had the nerve to throw them on that night) until he met Buster Douglas. If Tyson at the very height of his P4P ranking can get his ass kicked by fatass quitter Buster Douglas (who stood in front of Tyson for a lot of their fight too)... or when only slightly past his prime, get outslugged/outmuscled by an older, much more faded Holyfield, there's no reason to think a guy of Ike's level/abilities would be out of the fight against Tyson.
