Alex Ariza: Fraud/Cheat?

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  1. Ron King 702

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    Speaking of Ariza, we almost had a walk-out bout between him and Miguel Diaz, the veteran cutman who trained Maidana. Ariza explained that after the fight, Diaz approached him and proceeded to call him a “fraudâ€￾ and a “cheat,â€￾ which Ariza took umbrage to. Based on this, I think it’s safe to say that Freddie Roach won’t be hiring Diaz to work cuts in his corner anytime soon.

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  2. Ron King 702

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    And yes, I do believe Pacquiao is a hardcore PED user.
     
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    I dont know what to think anymore. The problem is there is so much MONEY involved that even if PAC is using PEDs, the truth wont be told. There is too much money involved. This is the sad truth of it all. Money talks.
     
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    Who's Ariza anyways?
     
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    And this is proof of what? Diaz is a sore loser?
     
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    Awesome thread Ron, you've outdone yourself.
     
  8. Ron King 702

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    There is no explanation for the fact that Pacquiao was battered around the ring by 130 lb Erik Morales 9and unable to dent his chin with his BEST shots) and 126 lb Marquez at one point THEN fast forward three years later, and he's walking through Margarito, Cotto, De la Hoya, and others and knocking full blown welters down with one shot. It just doesnt make sense at all.

    Not to mention his appearance has drastically changed.
     
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    Here we go.............:boohoo:
     
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    I'm not saying he's used PEDs or not, but the case you've made is not a good one.

    First of all, when Pacquiao faced Morales and Marquez, he was the same size as them - it's not as if he were the same guy physically that he is today.

    Second of all, he was not battered around the ring by either Marquez or Morales. He lost just one of those fights, and won two of them by knock-out.

    Thirdly, he did not walk through Cotto, ODH or Margarito. Rather, he used his speed advantage (an advantage that was much less at 126 and at 139 by the way) to control the pace of those fights, and to land at a rate none of those fighters had ever been hit at.

    Fourth, you're not accounting at all for the improvement Pacquiao's made in his boxing. Having more than one punch, I'm sure you can imagine, is going to make any fighter more formidable in the ring.

    And finally, don't you think it stands to reason that gaining 20 pounds would change any fighter's appearance?
     
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    It's not even worth writing a proper reply, Ron is a proper retard.
     
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    :lol:
     
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    Ron is set for the next 8 months, so fuck y'all.
     
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    However, Diaz is a respectful and reserved guy. it's very strange to see him do that, he must have his reasons and I would love to hear what he have to say about the incident.
     
  15. Ron King 702

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    why is it so hard to believe that people cheat?
     
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    Oh it's easy to believe, Ron, especially when we have.........proof.
     
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    if there's such PED that's somehow masked in urine samples and improves your chin, skills, stamina, speed, and power, i'm sure this earth shattering revelation would be all over the fucking news.
     
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    I bet you were one of the people waving pom poms during the home run race of 98
     
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    Mark McGwire
     
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    I think more people than not IN BOXING know that Manny is unknowingly given PEDs by his team.
     
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    Ron, if there is some super-PED that makes Superman from an "ordinary" fighter, why only Manny is using it? How can it be that nobody else wants to be invincible if it's as simple as taking some from the super-PED?
     
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    REALLY....? Why didn't that same TEAM gave Amir Khan the same PED's for that questionable chin...
     
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    Yes.

    Mark McGwire is not Manny Pacquiao. I am sure of this.
     
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    I read somewhere that Diaz and Ariza go back like 10 years ago. I think they work the Corrales corner against Mayweather.

    Ariza said at that time Diaz had a shitty game plan on how to beat Floyd. He said that this past weekend he had the same game plan for Maidana to beat Khan, :dunno:
     
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    diaz wasnt even the chief second in that bout, corrales father was.
     

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