BETTER FIGHTER: GGG Or CALZAGHE?

Totally Original Concept, Inspired By......NATHAN!

Who ACCOMPLISHED More???...Who Fought BETTER Opposition???...Who WINS Head to Head???...

Who was BETTER???





REED

 

Good one. Id like to say GGG since i despise calz, but im really not sure

 

Can You Make This a POLL Brother X? Forgot to Do So As it Was Created...

In Fact, ALL Of These Comparison Ass Threads Should Have POLLS, If They Don't Already...




REED

 

I would pick GGG if he had gotten a decision over Canelo, but because he didn't, I would lean toward the Jazzerciser

 

As REED Types, He's Searching for an Answer to His Own Fucking Thread...

GGG and Calzaghe were CLEARLY the Best in Their Respective Divisions for 5 Years + and Among the More Physically GIFTED Fighters of their Era's....

If You COMBINE Triple G's Early/Mid-Career AMBITION w/Calzaghe's Latter Day Saint Level AMBITION, You Have an ARGUMENT for Best Fighter of His Era Period, Weight Class Be DAMNED!!!...

As REED Thinks on This, Imagine GGG or Calzaghe w/Carl Froch's Level of AMBITION???...




REED

 

I wonder which of them has the most jobbers on his resume....

 

Calz by a good margin. I cant see what the pro-Golov argument would be.

The man has no defining wins. Yes, he really won the first Ginger fight, but even in that one he faded late and opened the doors for a robbery.

I dont see Calzaghe, even if faded, going life and death with a guy as underwhelming as Cancer Jacobs.

 

Calzaghe Had a Couple SHAKY Stoppage Wins, Most Notably the Byron Mitchell Fight...

If "Jobbers" Means Straight Up BUM'S, All Fighters Face Those Types on the Way Up...REED Would Guess GGG and Calzaghe Faced FEWER Up to a Certain Point, Due to Being More TALENTED...But On the Flipside, the Moment Froch TASTED World Level, He Constantly Pushed the Envelope...

In Terms of RESUMES, Sugar Ray Leonard is the Modern Day Standard For QUALITY Opponents Faced vs. NUMBER Of Fights Total...There's Little to NO Fat to Trim from Leonard's Resume...

REED Bets There's LESS Fat to Trim from Froch's Resume, Than GGG or Calzaghe's...





REED

 

Like literally, there's no Golovkin case.

Wins over Lacy, Reid, and Kessler in their primes, and wins over faded but still quality Eubank and Hopkins destroy Golov's joke resume.

FFS Charles Brewer was better than virtually every Golov victim.

 

How many of the jobbers on GGG/Jazzercisers record would beat "boxing superstar" Jake Paul?

 

Please, keep Paul out of real boxing discussions.

 

Yeah, i think Calzaghe hass a clear edge

 

Only YOU Could Label REED a "GGG Hater" Years Ago and THEN Put REED In a Position of Actually Defending Dude's Resume...Which You KNOW REED Ain't a Fan Of Already!

Anyways, Is Charles Brewer REALLY Better Than David Lemieux???...Compare Daniel Jacobs' RECENT Fight w/Gabe Rosado to GGG's, Like 7-8 Years EARLIER...W vs. a FADED Kassim Ouma...

Rubio, Macklin and Murray WEREN'T World Beaters, But GGG Probably ENDED Kell Brook's Prime...BEAT Jacobs (Albeit CLOSE AF), BEAT Canelo the 1st Fight (In the Mind's of MOST Reasonable Boxing Fans) and Has a W Over Derevyanchenko, Technically...

As YOU Know, REED's Among the 1st to CRITICIZE GGG's Resume...But it Looks a LOT Better Juxtaposed w/Calzaghe's....


REED

 

Fuck yes Charles Brewer was better than Lemoo.

Brewer should have had one win over Sven Ottke. Who did Lemo beat close to Ottke level?

Brook was a welterweight, and we all know damn well he got a gift over Dere.

Joe won his biggest fights in clear or dominant fashion.

Golov doesn't have a SINGLE defining, dominant win over a quality guy.

Calz also never blatantly avoided anyone the way Golov was scared to death of Ward.

 

huh?

 

Heh... I think you don't rebember the Glen johnson fiascos

 

Golov dominated the mid rounds and seemed on the verge of blowing Ginger out, then Canelo did better late.

 

you say he got a gift vs derevyanchenko which i agree with, but then are attempting to paint the first alvarez fight as anything but a clear cut victory for golovkin. cant have it both ways.

 

It was a very clear cut win for Golov, but from what I remember it was mainly based on dominating all the mid rounds.

 

Really hard to call and unfortunately, it might come down to GGG not getting the (deserved) decision vs Canelo in their first fight. Had he gotten it, GGG it would be.

 

Greater? - I think Calzaghe's wins up in a second weight class put him over the top.

Better? - I think that's tougher to call, but I'd still give the edge to Calzaghe as I think he had more proven versatility and resilience.

Though I think it could also be argued that G is at a disadvantage in this comparison as Canelo may be the single best fighter that either fighter ever faced.

 

Drawing with Canelo strikes me as slightly more impressive than Calzaghe's win over Hopkins. The rest is more or less a wash albeit Joe has greater longevity. Pretty hard to call....I'll say GGG, just because I think he was a slightly better fighter at peak

 

He only has one win at 175 worth mentioning and it was against an aged career middleweight. Debatable how much extra credit that warrants

 

Calzaghe's style is deceptive. GGG may have had better form, but his ring IQ was far worse than Joe's. Calz was an excellent technician in his own way, and was very good at changing his style to suit who was on front of him, and if he couldn't do that, he could still out-work them.

GGG had great power, a solid workrate, but it didn't take much to make him shell up and turn into a jab machine.

 

Aged or not, he had dominated the top LHW in the world 2 fights earlier, dominated the top MW in the world in his next fight, and went on to have a couple more decent wins at LHW after that. Beating him is a notable achievement that's lacking from G's resume.

 

As I said, Alvarez>that Hopkins, imo. We rely on the whims of judges in close fights to decide who takes a belt home that night; not to tell us how to evaluate entire careers.

 

True, unfortunately though, I've got to admit it is a big factor. Alvarez at that time was definitely a better win than old Hopkins. And in fact, I feel GGG won more clearly

 

What's Pernell Whitaker's defining win?

 

That's a comical comparison, as Whitaker had a deep resume outside of the Chavez "draw."

Golov's resume is a joke outside of the Canelo "draw."

 

What was Pernell Whitaker's defining win?