I liked the Baby Bull, but the answer is Hatton and it's not even close. He had just two losses both of which were against ATG fighters for fucks sake. His win over Tszyu shits on anything Diaz ever did in the ring.
Hatton. Dude stopped both Tszyu and Castillo. Impressive scalps right there. Unfortunate for him that he happned to co-exist with the great Mayweather.
Hatton by a mile, and I don't even think he was all that terrific to begin with he was still very clearly on another level than Juan Diaz, who was a solid titlist in a horrid era
There really isn't this much of a need to establish that Hatton is better than Diaz, everyone already knows that. Rjjp4pno1 is normally a good poster who knows his shit, he just obviously has some serious Hatton hate going on.
Obviously you don't read very many rjjp4pno1 posts or you just give him a pass because he's on your side of the Floyd debate. Just the other day he was saying that he saw no difference between Clottey and Quartey.
and Collazo...and lil Manny Pacquiao....and the other guys who would have trash him..but he didn't fight...
I added the "great Mayweather" bit just to bait you! You took longer to bite than I thought it'll take! ::
Court would be in Session, Justice Hatton adjudicating, " You have been charged that you did for 10 years relieve innocent fans of their hard-earned cash whilst masquerading as a professional fighter. You have been charged and found guilty as charged of the lesser offences of being slow, tubby and limited.This Court sentences you, the Fattened Calf, to 12 rounds of hard labour, with 2 rounds suspended for good unconsciousness. You may take the bum down."
Malignaggi, who beat Diaz down twice. Anyway, there is no way in hell I can see Diaz beating Tszyu, I hate this thread as I cannot stand Ricky Hatton, thank fuck he's retired. He is far better than Diaz though, it isn't even an argument. Sorry rjjp4pno1, you're on a losing battle here, pick most other people and I'd probably agree they're better than Hatton, but Diaz is NOT one of them
Sorry, but REED has Toooooooooooo Much RESPECT for Fightbeat's Reputation of Having THE BEST Messageboard (in Terms of Sheer BOXING KNOWLEDGE) on the Internet to Allow the ABSURDITY of rjjp4p's Diaz-Hatton Opinion to Go UNchecked... There's PLENTY of Fighters that REED DISlikes, but when it's NUT CUTTING Time, REED'll B Fair, Honest & OBJECTIVE about that Particular Fighter's Accomplishments, Place in History, etc...To DEFIANTLY Claim that Juan Diaz was BETTER than Ricky Hatton is an INSULT to the INTELLIGENCE of ANY So-Called Boxing Fan... Honestly, YOU Should B just as Offended by that Statement as REED was... REED:Lok:
Exactly this type of wishy-washy "everyone is entitled to their opinion" crap annoys me... some shit is just flat wrong
No doubt McDogg187, it is a very silly argument, I couldnt stand Hatton but it's clear as day he was a better fighter than Diaz
When i say that Juan Diaz is better than Pernell Whittaker or Marco Antonio Barrera then you can get offended. Hatton really has a lot of people fooled. Apart from beating Kostya Zoo they have almost the same careers. Both lost to the best fighters that they fought and both beat a couple of very good fighters. Diaz usually threw 100+ punches per round. So he had better cardio, better combos and more speed. Both had average defence, average chins but Hatton had more power. Neither guy had success when they went up in weight and competition. Yet on here Hatton is seen as an extremely good fighter and Diaz is seen as a bum who got lucky. Please explain to me what i have missed without resorting to personal insults.
LOL, you toss out "Kostya Tszyu" like you are saying "Pito Cardona", as if Diaz has a comparable victory anywhere near it... fucking preposterous Malinaggi beat Diaz Hatton raped Malinaggi
But that's just It, You CAN'T just Arbitrarily Cast KostyaFUCKINGtszyu by the Wayside, for YOUR OWN Convenience, Homey...That 1 Win SHITS on ANY of Diaz's Wins by a SIZABLE Margin...MORESO, it Took a BETTER Class of Fighter to Beat Ricky Hatton, than it Did to Beat Juan Diaz... Ricky Hatton DIDN'T Lose to Nate Campbell Types....Sorry...On Top of that, Ricky Hatton WIPED HIS ASS w/Paul Malignaggi Types, the Same Guy that SCHOOLED Juan Diaz TWICE...Hatton was MORE Successful Against a HIGHER Grade of Competition, PERIOD... Like CDogg, REED DOESN'T even Think Tooooo Highly of Ricky Hatton's Career, but @ the Same Time, there's NO Argument WHATSOEVER to Support the Notion that he was INFERIOR to Juan Diaz...Whether U HATE Ricky Hatton or Not... REED:kidcool:
He beat 1 inactive very good fighter in Zoo. That doesn't automatically mean his career was better or he was a more talented fighter. Diaz lost when he moved up in weight and was coming off the brutal war with JMM when he fought Paulie. Again it's similar to Hatton going up in weight and looking shitty although he was undefeated when he did it.
Well Juan did much better with the 1 great fighter that he fought in JMM than Hatton did with the 2 that he did in Manny and Floyd. Diaz fought Paulie coming off a brutal KO loss to JMM. After Hatton got brutally KO'd by Manny he never fought again.
no its not... Hatton was trying to beat FLOYD MAYWEATHER... Diaz was merely trying to handle a contender that was flat out handled by each elite fighter he ever faced Kostya Tszyu is a far better fighter than anyone Diaz came within a million miles of beating Diaz was out of his element with Malignaggi Hatton treated Malinaggi like what he was -- a second tier fighter
Diaz stunned MArquez in the first and then proceeded to get taken apart in the rematch, he survived while again losing by a large margin
Excuses, Excuses... When was JMM EVER Ranked # 1 Lb for Lb, as Floyd AND Pac were, when they Beat Hatton???...Doing "Better" Against JMM Is of NO Relevance... Moreso, Hatton Actually Lasted MORE ROUNDS vs. Floyd than Diaz did vs. JMM...Not to Mention the FACT that Diaz Got STRETCHED by JMM IN HIS HOMETOWN of Houston... Uuuuuh, Hatton SMOKED Paulie Coming Off a BRUTAL KO LOSS to Mayweather...So that Line of Thinking is FAULTY... The Bottom Line is, No CREDIBLE Boxing Guy would Even SUGGEST that Juan Diaz is BETTER than Ricky Hatton...He just ISN'T, Dog...U Bitch All the Time about the "Blind HATE" Against Floyd Mayweather, yet U're Doing LIKEWISE as it Pertains to Hatton... REED:shit: