Boxings Collateral Damage

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  1. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Alan Conceicao of NoBSBoxing writes:

    Read the rest here: http://nobsboxing.com/news_details.php?id=24

    This is some pretty shocking stuff that I woke up to read today. At the end of the day, this is a guy we've all watched numerous times and forget how you felt about him as a fighter, this dude murdered somebody and teh writing has been on the wall for some time now. How this wasn't prevented will be something thats debated for years to come.
     
  2. Irish

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    That is a matter for the Criminal Justice system in Venezuela.

    It has nothing to do with boxing.
     
  3. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    No one can say for sure that boxing had nothing to do with it and I'd say based on what we know about how Edwin has been handled in the past, boxing had alot to do with it.
     
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    The fame he earned by boxing, sure. I don't think you're suggesting otherwise, but you can't really blame boxing here.

    It's just a sickening situation all around.
     
  5. Tam Tam

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    Im talking about his management and the parasites that surround this guy. In the end the sport is about more than punching another dude in the head and ours is littered with scum.

    He was given far too many breaks when he ran into trouble from all concerned. Somebody needed to help the guy before it went too far...and that time passes today.
     
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    A lot of shaaady people in this world, shady and greedy... [​IMG]
     
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    Valero's management is going to have to live with themselves knowing this, Arum included.
     
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    I also agree you can't blame boxing on this. There are thousands of guys like Valero and I'm certain there are many in other sports like basketball, football, and baseball. I agree the people close to the situation should have gotten more involved, especially when Valero himself actually asked for help, but boxing can not be blamed here. Even Arum can't be held accountable. His job is a promoter for hire nothing more. Would it have been in his best financial and professional interest to see that Valero got help? Of course, but the fact that he didn't doesn't make him a guilty party to this. I think the guys who were part of Valero's team deserve much more blame than Arum because they were around Valero a lot more often and were much more hands on to the situation.
     
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    It was never going to be resolved, because Valero was a Chavez flunkie.
     
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    People will look back on Valero and celebrate, just the way they do Carlos Monzon.
     
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    well, Monzon proved so much more, he was so good that he cant be denied even if he was one of the biggest psychopath scumbags on Earth

    Valero was still "up and coming" so he is more easily dismissed by history
     

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