Bud continues to disappoint

Word is that WHOesito Lopez is the frontrunner to face Crawford next...

Yes, Josesito fuckin Lopez. The same Josesito fuckin Lopez whom Maidana and Canelo destroyed CENTURIES ago.

It's hard to call myself a Crawford fan anymore, it really is.

I'm starting to lose fandom for BOTH Spence and Crawford. Spence, because he's more and more becoming a diva, and Crawford because his opposition is just pathetic.

I want Ennis to fuck them both up. TBH.

 

wow, that is ridiculous.

 

I thought it was going to be Porter

 

Same, I thought Porter was his mandatory?

 

Big breakthrough with Crawford facing a pbc foe!

 

But now he can't blame his shitty opponent on promotional conflicts.

 

porter turned down top ranks offer. how much does porter think he'll get if it goes to purse bid?

 

Probably enough to avoid being forced to sell pancakes on pine street once Bud is done with him.

 

It sucks, but who exactly are the fighters who are both willing and able to face Crawford at this point? We all know that PBC/Showtime have basically monopolized that division and are blacklisting Crawford. The guy is the biggest high risk/low reward proposition in the sport since Rigondeaux.

 

Porter turned down at least two offers in recent months, for $1 mill and then $2 mill.

Shawn Porter rejects $1 million for Crawford fight, 'Don't lowball me' ⋆ Boxing News 24

Shawn Porter turns down $2 million to fight Terence Crawford ⋆ Boxing News 24

 

2 millions is pretty poor for porter to face Crawford. Kambozo pretty much makes the same thing to face Lopez.

But just went back and looked at his purses before, and yes, he shoud accept 2 millions

 

2 mil seems more than reasonable but this is the spot bud is in. In a weird way, porter has the leverage. So bud needs to say, okay, I pocketed risk-free dollars for years fighting low-pro comp, now it's time to give a little so i can silence the critics and regain my stature. In fairness, brook was a decent matchup and he handled him easier than anyone else. But still, the perception was he was used up. And that's probably the only reason he agreed to whatever low-ball offer TR gave him.

 

if porter wants to enforce his mandatory status and he refuses to accept a reasonable purse of 2 mill then he can take his chances with a purse bid and see if his boy haymon has his back. what does he want? 3mil? that means someone would have to bid 7.5 for him to get that with his 40%

 

Amir Khan Got $5Mil to Face Bud Crawford...The Shell of Kell Brook Got $2Mil to Face Crawford, w/No Live Crowd...

Shawn Porter Deserves $3Mil Minimum for That Fight and Top Rank Knows it Too, Which is Why They’re LOW BALLING Porter...







REED

 

Porter is obviously a worthier opponent than either of those two, but Khan had the (theoretical, at least) potential to generate added revenue from British PPV.

 

Exactly , when negotiating purses, it's not about being ''worthy' but ratjer on how much $ you can generate. I'd say Porter has less leverage than either washed-up Brook or Khan on this criteria.

 

Very good counterpoint though, Crawford might indeed be boxed-in in having to accept a purse reduction to get a recognized opponent across the ring. Quite a weird situation ineed. But considering his fights have been sink hole money wise, he shouldn't expect the gravy train to keep on rolling if he continues with this kind of opposition. Porter's gamble might not be as foolish as I first thought (even though I still think he should accept 2 M)

 

i guess we will see what porter (and crawfords) market value is if it goes to purse bid. unless some dumbass like triller over pays then porter aint gettin 3 mill

 

If bud is talking about fighting josesito isn't it a sign porter will not enforce his mandatory?

I'd be curious to know what Porter made against Spence, Fomella and Ugas. That is one measure of how serious an offer $2mil was.

 

Ive read it was around ,1.5 and 3 for each of these fights.

But while o think 2 mill is not a bad offer, the onus is in Crawford to fight a top guy, even if he takes a paycut to do so

 

He reportedly got 2m for Spence, and that was before COVID. Given the state of Porter's career right now, I don't think he's in a position to turn that down.

 

porter turning down 2 mill is him admitting he dont really want the fight

 

How Do you Figure That???...

Again, Kell Brook Got the SAME $2Mil for a Fight in America w/No Live Crowd...If Top Rank Could Afford to Pay THAT, They Can Certainly Offer Shawn Porter MORE Than $2Mil to Face Crawford...

Even w/No Live Crowd, Crawford-Porter Would Generate More Advertising Dollars than Crawford-Brook Did....But That's Just It, w/Covid Restrictions Being LIFTED in Some States (*ahem, Texas*), It's Even MORE Feasible to Pay Porter MORE Than $2Mil...

If Anything, Standing Firm on $2Mil is a Sign Bud and Top Rank DON'T Want the Fight, Not Porter...





REED

 

No Way Does Porter Have LESS Leverage than Brook Had, Negotiating w/Crawford...Since the Spence Fight, Porter's Stock has Never Been HIGHER...

Brook Brought NATHAN to the Table Except His NAME and a Direct Comparison to Spence, for Crawford...

On Principle ALONE, Porter Deserves a PRELIMINARY Offer of $2.5Mil...




REED

 

that depends on whether there were any UK dollars factoring in to brooks purse. regardless, what he got has no bearing on what porter should get. arum has admitted he's been losing money on crawfords last few fights.

what it should come down to for porter is what other fight can he take that would pay him anything close to 2 million?

 

Of Course it Has Bearing On it Neil, You KNOW How this Shit Works Bruh...

Brook's Stock DIMINISHED Post-Spence, he KO'ed a Couple No Hopers, Struggled w/Zerafa Yet was Rewarded w/$2Mil to Face Crawford in America w/NO Live Crowd...

Meanwhile, Porter's Stock has Never Been HIGHER, the Formella Fight Didn't Alter That @ All & Via His Broadcasting Role w/PBC, Porter's Always On the Radar of American Boxing Fans...

Again, Covid Restrictions are Being Loosened and Already Tank-LSC, Canelo-Smith, Spence-Garcia and Chocolatito-Estrada Took ADVANTAGE of Texas's LAX Covid Laws to Host Live Crowds...Live Crowds ='s HIGHER REVENUE...Losing Money on Crawford's Last Couple Fights???...Allow Fans to Purchase Tickets, Buy Concessions, Merch, Pay for Parking, etc...

Easy Fix...

Soooooo Obviously, Top Rank Could Pay Porter MORE than $2Mil if they WANTED To...If They Don't Budge an Inch from that Offer it's Because THEY (Top Rank/Bud) Don't Want that Smoke, Not Porter...






REED

 

This doesn't really make sense.

If Porter's stock is at a career high due to the fight with Spence - a fight he was paid 2m for, and lost - then why is he entitled to 2.5m now?

 

Plus ppv points

 

Pull Up a Chair Young Man; Let REED Explain...

On One of the Other Threads, Max Kellerman is Currently Being MOCKED For his "Story of the Fight" Theory...While REED Wholeheartedly DISagrees w/HOW & WHEN Max Applied it, the Theory Itself is Sound...

Maidana Lost to Floyd Yet Won the STORY of their 1st Fight, Thus the RE...Tarver Lost to Roy Jones Yet Won the STORY of their 1st Fight, Thus Tarver's 2 Subsequent Victories Over RJ...

Shawn Porter Lost to Errol Spence yet Won the STORY of That Fight...

REED Doesn't Think Anyone Would Disagree Spence's Stock Took a Bit of a HIT After the Porter Fight, Right???...And REED Ain't Referencing the Accident @ All, He's Talking PRE-Accident...

Spence's Stock Took a Slight Dip...Shawn Porter's Stock Went to a HIGHER Level, the Highest it's Ever Been, In Fact...

Porter Deserves More Than $2Mil Because Top Rank JUST PAID Kell Brook $2Mil...Kell Brook Brought a Lot LESS to the Table, All Things Considered, Than Shawn Porter Currently Does...That's Not Even Debatable...

In Terms of Boxing BUSINESS, Everybody Knows What Everybody's Making...

Jose Benavidez - $500k
Mean Machine - $1Mil
Kell Brook - $2Mil

Considering the State of THEIR Careers When they Signed to Fight Crawford vs. the State of PORTER's Career as He's Negotiating w/Crawford, Why SHOULD He Settle for $2Mil???...w/Every Fighter KNOWING What Other Fighters are Making, Porter Would Be a Damn FOOL to Accept $2Mil...

Worse Case Scenario, Shawn Porter's WORTH MORE Than the $2Mil Top Rank Paid Kell Brook...$2.5mil - 3mil Minimum...

Top Rank's a Victim of Their OWN Purses and They're Offering Shawn Porter Exactly What They Paid Kell Brook Because They DON'T Really Want Porter to Fight Bud Crawford...



REED

 

Money has been raining on the sport in the last couple of years but I think it would be foolish for boxers to keep on expecting these kind of paydays in the future considering how much $ DAZN is losing (and PBC too, at least that was the case).

Some good points, but TR is tired of wasting money on Crawford. Maybe they could justify it before, since they would have recuperated the sunk cost (and more) if Crawford became a star, but now, its becoming obvious that's not gonna happen. I understand Porter's perspective but he needs to ask himself if he can make that kind of money anywhere else? I'm not sure how big of a draw he actually is, but my guess is ''not much''. Now he's basically playing chicken with TR and it might cost him a nice payday