Carl Froch vs. Mikkel Kessler in Talks For February 28

From Boxingscene:

 

Kessler will find a way to get out of it. :doh:

 

Bad for Froch but he's in his early thirties, Taylor won't fight him, Calzaghe won't touch him, his best chance of any exposure or making serious coin is to go for broke. Otherwise, he'll be the supermiddleweight Witter.

 

Why? Kessler likes collecting belts, and unlike Miranda, Froch actually brings something to the table.

Miranda's press team is simply much better at their jobs than he is at his.

Hopefully Showtime or HBO send their crews over to cover this fight, if it's made.

 

Kessler will find a way out of it?

I doubt it. Froch is undefeated and would be a fucking EASY win for kessler, hence the talks commencing already.

Kessler wins easily, by 1 sided beatdown, mercy stoppage in around 9 rounds.

 

This is a dream matchup,..............................for me :crafty:, maybe I would like it a little more if Froch attempted to go all cocky hard-arse brawler against Andrade but I suppose it isn't to be, he's going straight to school instead of being out-toughed, out-brawled, and out-manned, by Andrade,..I want Froch beatdown at his own game, so he dissapears forever, Kessler will likely just shut-him out and wobble him every round, then Froch will say "He ran, he ran like a bitch, he wouldnt fight me"..and continue with his career,..but I dont want Froch to just look like a stupid bitter fucken idiot, I want his soul taken.

 

Kessler would get in that ass! Froch is too easy to hit, and too limited. Hell its arguable if Froch is even as good as Andrade.

 

Froch sucks...Kessler by KO 7

 

He's not as good,.. he's inferior in just about every way apart from one thing,.. ...Froch backs up like a bitch and attempts to time his scrub opposition on to his uppercut, so I suppose, that's what we 'could' call.. remnants of a gameplan?... I call it, plan B when his self proclaimed iron-chin gets buzzed too much and he backs off hurt.

 

Hennessey was on ITV during the boxing on Saturday banging on about this fight whilst Barry McGuigan repeatedly and frantically tried to talk him out of it...seems like he's ignoring some very sound advice... ::

Froch is better than some here seem to think (he'd be a live dog against Andrade and Taylor at worst) but he's biting off way more than he can chew here; Kessler beats him and beats him easily, inside no more than eight rounds.

Oh, and :atu: to those who still think that Kessler, despite having gone to Wales to try and unify against top 5 P4P oe Calzaghe, was somehow scared of that absolute mook Edison Miranda...

MTF ::

 

Well, maybe Froch could swallow his pride and run the last 5 rounds out against Andrade and nap himself a warm nottingham 'split decision', but Jermaine Taylor?.. .. no mate,.. '10 - 2' at best.

 

I'd favour Taylor, but not 10-2...Taylor was an elite fighter, but he is diminished and largely untested at 168 (though I think he will fair well there) and Froch is better than you and MWS seem to reckon.

Andrade is pure trash; he's never won any fight worth winning...

MTF

 

Yup

Better to be the SMW Junior Witter than be the SMW Gavin Rees I'd reckon...

MTF

 

Any other supermiddleweight???.. how??..why??... this hurts me...I dont get it.. ...please be honest,..:nono:!!!

 

Taylor is on his way back Feebs,.. sure he's had a form slump, the Pavlik rematch showed he was getting himself back together again, and he shut Lacy out,...I dont think Froch would go anywhere near shutting Jeff out,.. I think it'd be very competitive, and Froch would leave the ring after 12 rounds, mauled with slime and blood all over him, like he'd just had a very savage scrap, bottom-feeders make for entertaining fights but,..

 

But the essential thing for me is,.. who has Froch beaten to..be annointed anywhere near 2nd best?.. Pascal is his prized victory,.. a thought to be, glass chinned joke-scrub who wasnt even worthy of...Edison Miranda(::) heading in,..

but,.....coming out the otherside a 'tough, durable, warrior worthy of much respect and adulation' ....hmmm.. Froch can do that to people,..

When considering Froch's opposition,..has made him look...pathetic, frankly,.. when he finally steps it up, (which he hasn't yet),.. then I think we can properly judge,.. because for now,.. I'd pick Zuniga over Froch, let alone Inkin,.. and they're probably 9th or 10th best, and I dont think it's being harsh on Froch to say that, it's justified.

 

Of course, much of the stuff written after the Froch-Pascal fight last week was tosh, but Froch is better than Zuniga, Inkin and Miranda.

Especially Miranda.

Andrade would be favoured to beat Carl but it would be likely a close fight. Froch would probably beat Andre Dirrell I'd reckon. He'd lose to Mundine, who is just better technically and would find his chin often enough through Froch's shitty defence. Bute is probably a bit too cute for Froch but isn't much himself either and can be hurt as Andrade showed. Is Bika fighting at 168 now? :dunno: That would be another coinflip fight imho...

Really, 168 is full of B-Level guys who Froch would be a live dog/coinflip against really. The only elite guys are Taylor, who is untried at 168 and in declining (anyone with a pair of boxing gloves could shut out Lacy at this point) and Kessler, who is miles and miles above the rest and will wipe Froch out with ease.

No-one is saying Froch is second best, but the truth is that there is only really Kessler who would start a fight against him a clear favourite.

MTF

 

Has Any Fighter Done LESS to B Thought of as HIGHLY as Kessler is???...He Beat a String of DECENT (@ Best) "Names" @ Supermiddle, then Fought HALF a Fight vs. Calzaghe...

NOW, Everybody Acts like Kessler's UNTOUCHABLE & Any Supermiddle Matchup is a Foregone Conclusion...


REED:boohoo:

 

Maybe they're not just basing it on accomplishment.

It's not like people are calling him the best super middle ever.

They're talking about match-ups (and the middleweight divisions aren't exactly strong at the moment).

 

That's where we Differ...REED Thinks Supermiddle is a VERY Deeeeeeeeeeep Division w/NO Clear-Cut "King" of the Mountain...There's OLD GUARD Guys, Guys CURRENTLY N their Primes & Young UPSTARTS, All N the 168lb Mix...

REED has No Problem w/Kessler Being RATED # 1, but it's Kind of Silly to REED when Others Act as it Kessler is Some UNTOUCHABLE Beast...Kessler's very BASIC N His Approach & As Such, Any # of Supermiddles COULD Beat him...


REED:hammert:

 

Who do you think makes the division deep?

 

N NO Particular Order...

Kessler, Bute, Andrade, Froch, Mundine, Taylor, Green, Zuniga, Inkin, Pascal, Dirrell, Ward, Bika, Lacy, Miranda, Tsypko, Trinidad...


REED:dunno:

 

Kessler beat some of the guys I listed earlier and barely lost a round doing so. All the other guys sort of wind up taking turns beating each other.

It might say as much about 'the rest' as it does about Kessler, but he is clearly a level above the rest of the division right now imho.

MTF

 

None of those guys would beat Kessler- they are B-Level guys, each and every one of them (with the exception of Taylor, who was an elite MW)

That list sort of makes the point Mister REED

MTF

 

Reed please,.. by the looks of that list, aside Taylor, Kessler does look pretty untouchable, and has beaten just about the best of it,...

 

I don't think some of those names are anything more than filler...and Kessler's beaten two of the (arguably) more legit guys on the list.

With Dirrell and Ward, they have talent but they've hardly proven themselves on a world class level yet. The jury is still very much out on them, IMO, especially Ward, until they step up several levels in competition.

I'd love to see Kessler-Taylor next year.

 

REED Doesn't See HOW U Soooooooo EASILY Come to that Conclusion, Mr. FEEBLES...

Bute was Dominating Andrade N SIMILAR Fashion to Kessler, Until the Very End...@ Worst, he's Got KesslerEQSUE Qualities...What Happens if Miranda Catches Kessler FLUSH???...Allan Green Can Box AND Punch (When he's Active:doh:)...How Does Kessler Cope w/That.???..Bika Certainly WASN'T an Easy Fight for Calzaghe, so HOW Can U just Assume he's an Easy Mark for Kessler???...

Dirrell & Ward R Still a Bit WET Behind the Ears, but by this Time NEXT Year, their Athletisicm Could Pose SERIOUS Problems to Kessler...Jermain Taylor Looks IMPROVED from his 160 Days....

Perhaps we're just Looking thru a Different Set of Glasses, because REED DOESN'T See Kessler Automatically Beating ALOT of those Guys, B-Level or Not...


REED:kidcool: