CNN Asking If Brain Damage from Boxing Played a Part in the Boston Bombings...

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  1. Buddy Rydell

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    Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, left, in the 2009 Golden Gloves National Tournament of Champions in Salt Lake City.

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    <!--endclickprintexclude--><!--google_ad_section_start--><!--startclickprintinclude-->(TIME.com) -- Tamerlan Tsarnaev is telling no tales. The older of the two brothers who committed the Boston Marathon bombings was likely the one who planned the attack, but when he died in a shootout with police just days after the blasts, his thoughts and motivations vanished with him.
    But the brain that was home to his angry mind remains, and in this case that may mean something.
    Tsarnaev was an amateur boxer who won the New England Golden Gloves competition as recently as 2009 and 2010. That speaks to a young man with a healthy sense of discipline and focus, and if he had a violent streak, it was violence well-channeled.

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    But his sport of choice suggests the possibility of something else too: traumatic brain injury.


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    As the National Football League and other pro sports increasingly reckon with the early dementia, mental health issues, suicides and even criminal behavior of former players, the risk of what's known as chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), is becoming clear.
    Roughly 4,000 former NFL players and 2,000 of their spouses are currently suing the league, claiming that the perils of head injuries were never explained to them and, indeed, that the players were pushed to get back on the field even when it was clear that they had suffered concussions.
    It was inevitable, then, that questions would be raised about whether Tsarnaev's brain may have been similarly traumatized during the years he boxed, and if there had indeed been damage, did that spark his murderous behavior? The answer is a likely yes to the first part and a likely no to the second.

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    Boxers are perhaps the best-studied victims of CTE, with the consequences of consistent trauma to the head described initially as "punch drunk," but emerging as CTE in the 1950s, says Dr. Robert Stern, cofounder of the Boston University Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy.
    The term "better describes a neurodegenerative disease caused, at least in part, by repetitive brain trauma," he says.

    The presence of CTE can only be confirmed postmortem, by looking for tau proteins in the brain -- produced when neural connections stretch and show signs of wear. Whether the presence of those proteins, however, play any role in behavior is less clear.
    In general, older people with CTE exhibit problems with memory, attention span and the ability to learn new material -- all of the things we associate with Alzheimer's disease and other forms of dementia. They may also exhibit impulsiveness, anger, situational explosiveness and paranoia, which are familiar as well to families of people suffering from dementia.

    In younger people, the predominance of the symptoms is frequently reversed: outbursts and lack of impulse control come first, with an underlying loss of cognitive abilities eventually following.
    And that's the problem with looking for CTE in Tarnaev. Authorities haven't revealed if they plan to examine his brain, and unless they have taken some necessary steps to preserve it for study, they may have lost that option already.

    But it may not matter. "The Boston bombing was a planned attack," says Dr. Robert Cantu, also of Boston University and co-director of the Encephalopathy Center. "There were lots of explosive devices put together in a very premeditated way. There was no flipping out here, no impulsiveness. That's not what you see with CTE in younger people."

    That doesn't mean Tsarnaev didn't have brain trauma related to his boxing. "I think he did," Cantu says. It's just that it may not have caused his criminal behavior.
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    That points to the difficulty of establishing any link between the condition of a brain and actions that may or may not result from it.

    Cantu points to the case of the late pro wrestler Chris Benoit, who killed his wife and son and then himself in 2007. When his brain was studied after he died, it showed signs of CTE-- but here, too, it might have had little to do with his murderous behavior.
    "In Benoit's case the behavior was again premeditated. It took place slowly, over the course of a weekend. He even sedated his son first so he wouldn't suffer," Cantu says. Criminally pathological? Certainly. But triggered by CTE? Probably not.

    TIME.com: Brothers in arms: Sibling psychology and the bombing suspects
    For now, there is no cure for CTE and the best treatment is prevention, which sports leagues from Pop Warner football on up are beginning to address with rules changes and more stringent medical monitoring of players.

    As my colleague Sean Gregory reported in January, investigators at UCLA have developed a still-experimental technique to detect CTE in the brains of living patients, using positron emission tomography (PET) scans and a radioactive dye that clings to tau proteins.
    Early diagnosis, if it becomes routine, could be used to keep already ill people away from contact sports and prevent their condition from being exacerbated by more hits. They might also be enrolled in treatment and therapy programs that would slow the onset of what for now are inevitable symptoms.
    While none of this likely would have deterred Tsarnaev, it might be used to diagnose other people at risk of explosive CTE-related violence and stop them before they act out. By treating a single person's wounded brain, doctors could one day save uncounted other lives.
    This article was initially published on TIME.com.
    The brain of a bomber: Did damage caused by boxing play a role in the Boston bombings?
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    He got hit so hard it gave both brothers brain damage.
     
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    Yep, that's how hard he got hit.
     
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    This is what happens when you have to fill 24 hours non-stop with "content" and not only that, you have several other stations to compete with
     
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    My thoughts exactly. 24 hour news will eventually kill us all
     
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    yeah, it is fucking dreadful
     
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    Absolutely ridiculous. Cosign SD too; 24 hour 'news' is ridiculous and this is the net result.

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    No, brain damage from boxing (blunt force trauma) is cumulative and takes years and years, decades to surface.

    Just look at guys like Jerry Quarry and Muhammad Ali and how many years worth of beating they took.

    This kid wasn't fighting long enough and not nearly enough time had elapsed for any trauma to change his behavioral patterns.

    The whole article is BS written by a drama queen, IMO.
     
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    Agreed on all.
     
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    no doubt... it's a sensationalist piece, complete nonsense
     
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    This is what happens when you want to find anything other than radical Islam for the cause.
     
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    :lol: true
     
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    If it's true and a little brain damage from a little boxing caused this little explosion then you know that means....Gerald McCllean must be the one responsible for 9/11
     
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    Following the logic of the original article i don't think this is a far fetched theory.
     
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    Damn, another black eye for terrorism! :nono:
     
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    "I hit him so hard his relatives in Armenia felt it".....for fucks sake, don't these morons have anything else to do other than lay the blame for this shitheads deluded bullshit at the door of boxing?.....same as "Steroids Killed Chris Benoit AND his family" ....OK. :shit:
     
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    Wreckit Ralphi Ali Jabali of the Jammat Bumklaat Mosque in Pandhandle, Texas...."we do not recognize these two young men as Martyrs....their deeds were not the work of Allah working through them, but rather the result of a spurious and unholy bit of braindamage to the elder brother. Hence we denounce their actions as not those of true terrorists but those of pugilist unspecialists"
     
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    I wouldn't say Radical Islam.....just shitheads, this time of the Islamic variety. The older kid was a poser and a fucktard. All his boxing photos have a staged, posey look about them. He couldn't hack it in the real world so slipped away into one of his own, which involved killing and maiming.
     
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    In fairness, Benoit's wife and kid were known juicers
     
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    What? This time it's of the Islamic variety. That's not always the case.
     
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    Instead of WILLINGLY Accepting these Cowardly, Unwarranted Attacks; these Slights, these Blows of Damnation, as if they were HEADSHOTS Directed @ the STATIONARY Skulls of Brandon Rios or Antonio Margarita, it's Time for the Sport of Boxing to RISEthefuckUP!!!!...Enough is ENOUGH, so We Got's To RISEthefuckUP!!!...

    Flip Phone or SmartPhone....Whether yo Shit is PAID For or NOT...Regardless Who HAVE You Beat or Who Have you NOT Beat....@ the End of the Day, We ALL we Got, Motherfuckers....

    So RISEthefuckUP, I Say, like "Sweet Pea" Whittaker, Shucking & Jiving from BENDED Knee....RISEthefuckUP, like Muhammad Ali, from that VICIOUS Joe Frazier Left Hook, on March 8th, 1971....RISEthefuckUP, as Ah'Chee MO' Did, Half a Hundred Times vs. Yvon Durelle....RISEthefuckUP!!!....

    But My Brothers, RISINGthefuckUP AIN'T Enough Though:nono:...We've Got to COUNTERPUNCH the Next Wave of Attacks...BAIT & COUNTER, Like Roy Jones Jr., Utilize your PULL COUNTER, like Floyd Mayweather...CHECK-HOOK as if your Life DEPENDS On it, for the Game as we Know it is Under Attack....

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    I don't get it
     
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    He said he wouldnt call it Islamic Radicals. That's bullshit for one. And two. The majority of the terrorism done in this world is done by islamic radicals. Which IMO is the same as a shithead.
     
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    You bolded and underlined this time
     
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