Contenders who could have been champs in a different time

What contenders who couldn't get over the hump due to a dominant fighter (or fighters) at the top of the division?

And, at what specific point in boxing history do you think those fighters could have won a title?

 

I still roll with Oba Carr any time we have a thread like this.

 

Do you mean being recognized as the best, or picked up an title strap?

 

Ike Quartey could have ruled the WW division with an Iron Fist at the time that Spinks/Judah/Baldomir were kings.

 

When do you see Carr being a champ? Who does he beat? People bring up Carr all the time, but I don't see him doing any better against the fighters who were champs before the DLH/Tito/Ike time. I don't see him beating Leonard, Hearns, Benitez, Duran, Curry, McCrory, Starling. Brown, Honeyghan, etc...

Where do you see Carr's window opening?

 

I would prefer the best, but sometimes there isn't a clear best...as in the case of his own time with DLH, Tito and Ike. Any legit title will do, I suppose. Not something like beating Danell Nicholson for the IBO title.

 

During the time that Mayorga, then Spinks, then Judah, then Baldomir were ruling the WW division? I think the division could have belonged to nearly anyone right around that time.

 

That's a good a time as any for him...when some nothing special fighters were at the top of the division. Personally...I don't think Carr was the uncrowned champ some make him out to be. I think he would have gone without a title in any time with real quality at the top.

 

Ezzard Charles below heavyweight :: Damn.

 

Andrew Golota....

Despite Receiving 259 Heavyweight Title Shots, REED REALLY Thinks he'd have Been a Champ in the Era just PRIOR to Tyson Getting Out of Prison....Surely, Golota Could've Won a Strap in the Days when Oliver McCall, Frank Bruno, Frans Botha & Bruce Seldon were "Champions"....



REED:cheer:

 

Can you IMAGINE Golata somehow tapping out against Seldon?? They might have to make it a "submission only" match. Who quits first?? ::

 

We might have to rename this topic to something like "What are the most shitty eras in which ANYONE could be a champ".::

 

Golota would have low blowed his own balls, before he would have ever let himself win a real title.


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Charles was totally screwed...he was the best around but couldn't get a shot. This isn't like Carr, Golata or Yaqui Lopez coming up short over and over again in title shots.

 

right now

and any time before the 20s

dead serious on both counts

although with right now, the heavyweight question is interesting because today's guys are so enormous... other than that, it's a wasteland ffrom strawweight up

 

Ike reminds me of Clottey so i can't agree

 

in that both are African?

because other than that, they don't have much in common

Quartey would have ran away with a decision win on Clottey on his jab alone

 

Is it the fact that they are both africans or the high guard defense? Because that is all they have in common...

Quartey is much better than Clottey.....

 

Really? How so? I see Quartey as a much better fighter.

 

Alvaro Yaqui Lopez in today's division

 

definitely

he also would have done it in the tar pit division that Virgil Hill and Henry Maske "ruled"

 

Ken Norton during the Brewster, Rahman, Byrd, Ruiz era

 

Norton would also have beaten any of the WBA Champs during the Holmes era up until Tyson. (Tate, Weaver, Dokes, Coetzee, Page, Tubbs, Witherspoon, Smith). He also would have KOed Michael Spinks.

 

Norton ::

 

Riddick Bowe was never a lineal champion so I say he would've fucked up the 1950s.

 

Cotto in the late 80s.

 

Both Herol Graham and Michael Watson would have been middleweight titlists any time since about 1998 to now.

MTF

 

Hopkins would've beaten those guys easily.

 

That's why I waited for the terms of the thread. He probably would, but both would have won 'legit titles' (hell, shit like Joppy managed it) and they would have both wiped their ass with Jermaine Taylor and Kelly Pavlik.

MTF

 

agreed