Corrales vs Morales at 130lbs

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  1. slystaff

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    The Morales that beat Jesus Chavez vs the Corrales who beat Joel Casamayor in the 2nd fight.

    Guaranteed excitement!

    Gimme Morales by decision, after being shaken up badly a few times but scoring a couple KDs along the way to seal the deal.
     
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    Morales is the better class of fighter here... but hes not a natural 130 pounder, hed be tested and hurt, but I think he'd win out in the end
     
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    Please! Chico fucks him up. Morales was FAR too easy to hit and too brawl happy to beat Chico at 130. Plus Morales's speed and reflexes were hardly what they were at 126. And why the Corrales of the Casa rematch? Corrales was at his 130 BEST when he slaughtered Manfredy.

    Chico TKO 9.
     
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    Ok..the Manfredy fight then.

    Same result, IMO.
     
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    The fact that Morales was rocked, and lost rounds to Jesus Chavez should tell you of his chances here.

    Morales was essentially severly altered by the first Pac fight. At 130 he never looked especially good.

    Chico would have stomped in, as Morales didnt have a semblance of a defense, and would hold no strength or even quickness edge of Chico.
     
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    Corrales had faster hands, fo sho...but Morales had better footwork. Morales would hit Chico more times than he'd be hit in return and Morales had the better chin in addition to this. Chico definitely more powerful, no doubt...but he;d be a stationary target for Morales' shots.

    Don't under-estimate Morales' toughness. Chico wouldn't stop him.

    Pacman may not hit as hard as chico and may be smaller...but Pacman is a whirlwind of activity and unpredictability...Pac stopping Morales has no bearing on what would happen vs Chico.
     
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    I will place my bet somewhere between the battle lines drawn here...my money is on Corrales to knock Morales out at some point, but there is a pretty decent chance Corrales cannot finish, & Morales rallies throughout & closes stronger for the decision.

    65-35, Chico over El Terrible, IMO.
     
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    I don't think Chico hangs with the Morales of the first Pac fight. Morales was all about it that night.
     
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    A fight that was at 126.
     
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    Corrales by KO 10 in a WAR....Corrales is on the canvas plenty and wayyy down on the cards when he lands a left hook/right hand combo that turn Morales legs into jello...
     
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    I think Morales would outbox him from the outside and use his far faster (underratedly fast) feet. For the most part. There would be loads of two way action along the way of course, but Morales chin would get him through it.
     
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    I'm really not sure who to pick in this fight.

    Well actually, the Morales of the Pacquiao fight, I would have to pick him. If I was guaranteed that same Morales.

    He did fucking well that night, and for Morales, was amazingly disciplined.

    By the way, I'm a HUGE fan of both guys, but no way did Corrales have faster hands than Eric.

    Eric's speed is underrated, at least at 122/126. Watch prime Morales against Chacon, Kevin Kelly etc. He was a quick handed fighter for sure. Just didn't have a quick slick style, tended to brawl so much, which lead to his speed being underrated.

    Chico's left hook came out of nowhere and travelled a downright INCREDIBLE distance for the power it generated, so short and crisp. Partly by the sheer lack of distance it had to travel, that punch certainly landed on it's target fast, but for raw velocity of punches, Morales wins clearly. His jab and straight right are much quicker.

    Even against Pacquiao, an insanely fast fighter, Eric showed respectable handspeed in his first fight with Manny.
     
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    Hmmm... my bad stand corrected.

    For some reason I had my timeline confused.
     
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    COrrales had faster hands than Morales...WITHOUT ANY DOUBT.

    Don't confuse Morales outboxing Pacquiao for handspeed...and don't confuse Chico getting comprehesively outboxed by Mayweather for lack of handspeed. Inexperienced fight fans tend to make that mistake. Chico's hands were a blur when he let them go. Morales didn't have that type of handspeed.
     
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    lol. I love Chico, but his hands weren't close to being a blur.

    In fact at 130/135, his jab and right cross were average speed at best.

    Corrales was quick inside, no doubt. His hooks were very fast, in large part because of how short and crisp they were, they reached their target so fast.

    And trust me, I'm not making any mistakes. I am very perceptive when it comes to motion. Motion graphics/physics etc is my job. I look at moving graphics at 60 frames per second every single day, making tiny changes to velocities etc. Essentially my eyes are far more trained in motion perception compared to most people.

    Why would I mistake Erik outboxing Manny for handspeed? Did I say Eric showed faster hands than Pacquiao? Of course not, Manny's hands were still faster, my point was simply that against a fighter as fast as Pacquiao, Eric's hands still looked a decent speed, Manny didn't make him look like he was fighting in slow motion like he does with some other fighters.

    And with Chico against Floyd, again, you're stating the obvious. That fight was more about their respective footspeeds and defense than anything else.

    When I consider their handspeed, I'm not even thinking about their wins/losses, literally just the raw velocity of their punches.

    Inside, Corrales has faster hands, and they reach their target quicker. At mid/long range, Morales clearly has the quicker hands.

    The velocity of his straight punches are a clear level above Corrales' straight punches, no doubt at all.
     
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    morales wouldve got fucked up
     
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    P4P Morales is better.

    But at 130, I think Corrales would just land too many clean shots. And they would take their toll. Corrales would land over 40 perfect of his shots and Morales would NOT survive. Would be a war. But at 130, Chico is too big and too powerful.

    Corrales via late stoppage.
     
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    Corrales would have died against Manny Pacquiao, literally died in the ring

    Morales was a VASTLY SUPERIOR fighter to Diego Corrales, its not even close
     
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    Agreed. Morales was underratedly quick of hand and especially foot. He matched Manny step for step in that first fight.
     
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    Morales would not have won the first fight with Pacquiao had it not been for the Winning gloves. That's my opinion.

    And at 130, I think he gets knocked out by Corrales.
     
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    Its easy to say Morales beat Pac, therefore he'd beat Chico... but it doesnt work that way. ESPECIALLY considering that Manny was HARDLY the Manny of today.

    THAT Manny had only a straight left basically.

    Chico had two fisted power his entire career, and his physical strength would impose itself on Erik.
     
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    The difference in foot speed and mobility the other way is bigger.
     
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    Agreed!
     

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