CYC's progress

Inspiration from Tyler ..:holla:

Anyway , I'll give you the low down on whats happening ...
I put weight on from a bad knee , then knee surgery (knee is great now) and my Wife was pregnant and 3 months ago the baby was born .
So really the last 2 years have been a complete fuck up regarding physical fitness ...
I'm 33 , 5'9 and was up to 211 lbs. I have a good amount of muscle on me so I'm not nearly as fat as you might think. Nothing you could notice with a shirt on. Though I should be around 183-185 lbs . That would leave me with some abs showing. Anyway , I lost 7 pounds during the last 3 weeks ...

This morning : 6/13/06
Worked out my shoulders , abs
Ran 1 - 10 minute mile
1 hour 15 minutes total workout

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
1 banana
2 scoops of tuna fish
1 cup of pasta salad
Various vitamins - creatine
3 breaded & fried chicken cutlets
1 birdseye vegatable pack
2 bite sized reeses peanut butter cups
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT 204

 

Creatine?

Isn't that the stuff McGuire claimed helped him bulk up?

Also, that's the supplement Mosley said he loaded on before the Holiday fight where he "allegedly" crapped on himself during the fight.

Good luck!

 

mgwire was claiming andro....steroids little sister

 

Oh...I thought he was accused of using Andro, but said it was Creatine.

 

nah, andro was completely legal on and off the field at the time

 

Mike should be coming in here to tell you to not use Creatine if you are trying to lose weight any second now :jester:

 

This morning : 6/14/06
Worked out my chest & biceps
Ran 1 - 10 minute mile
1 hour 20 minutes total workout

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
1 banana
Salad with dressing
Chicken Panni with cheese and roasted peppers
Various vitamins - creatine
2 bowls of cereal - rice checks with 2% milk
Water throughout the day

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This morning : 6/15/06
Worked out my back & triceps
1 hour 15 minutes total workout

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
2 fig newtons
1 small grilled chicken Cesar salad
Chicken fingers (breaded - fried) with honey mustard
Various vitamins - creatine
2 hot dogs with cheese
1 cup vegatable rice
1 cup Ice cream
Water throughout the day

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And he's absolutely right


CYC says he has a decent amount of muscle, so there is absolutely no need for it at all

 

Just on it for now Hooks to help with muscle recovery until I get back into my normal shape .... I will go off it in about 1 month ...

I still lose weight on Creatine. I lost 7lbs so far and as you can see , I'm not on a strict diet. Lets face it , I'm not trying to make weight for a proffesional weigh in or anything ....

 

stick to whey, glutamine, and BCAA's for muscle recovery....you dont need creatine for what you want

 

Hooks , I've been doing this for years .... Creatine works exactly the way I want it to ... I have had my experience with whey protein and glutamine ...
Both are good but , for my body creatine works wonders ...

 

whatever bro....whether you take the creatine or not, the things i recommended are still a big addition, and the protein is a necessity

 

I will agree with you in a way .... Protein used to be a big necessity to me but , these days I have already packed on enough muscle .... I used to consume atleast 2 grams of protein per body pound daily.
It worked out well . Over the years I stacked on around 25lbs of pure muscle.
Right now I'm in a different phase since I have been working out but , not seriously. Now I'm heading towards getting serious again. In the future If I feel I need to , I'll start up more protein and Glutamine etc or whatever I feel I need. For now what I'm doing is sufficient.
Creatine helps me get my old strength back without getting as sore as I normally would without it ....
It's a delivery system to your muscles ... IMO it works well. Creatine is the one thing that really agrees with my body .
I have been in the gym for years and have really tryed allot of products and different forms of product stacking ....

How long have you been in the gym game ?

 

protien is needed to mantain muscle as well, not just build it. If you dont have the building blocks there for the muscles, the creatine will be delivery to something that isnt home. If you're on a calorie restricted diet, the simple fact of the matter is that you NEED protien to mantain, whereas creatine can be beneficial for strength and size gains.

You may like the hardness or density that creatine lends your muscle, but you will see that over time, without the right amount of protiens and BCAA's, on a calorie restricted diet, you muscles will break down.



As for me, I've been working out and researching stuff since I was 17, so that puts me at 7 years worth now

 

Since Mike hasn't chimed in yet.:nixweiss: .......he told me Creatine tends to retain water. When I took it, it gave me plurecy(sp) where my lining of my lungs and heart would rub together. It was aweful, I could barely breathe and couldn't sleep a wink. I went off it, then back on it after I felt better, same result. Some people it just ain't good for.

 

I hate creatine. It makes a man feel like he's on his fucking period.

 

Just want to go on record as saying, I dont think the creatine will make you fatter, but it will add some weight to you. I just think your priorities are a little out of place for what you say you're trying to do

 

That FUCKING SUCKS.....I'm just getting over pneumonia, and I got pleurisy along with it......Feels like someone is DIGGING INSIDE of you

 

man, it was the worst, glad someone knows what I'm talking about. Try sleeping taking short breaths to ease the pain :19:

 

I'm around 17 years in the game ....
I understand what you are saying about protein maintaining muscle but , you are neglecting the fact that everyone is different ...

Me personally - I NEVER lose any muscle regardless if I do not take protein supplements ..... My metabolism is just like that .... For whatever reason , my body can maintain the same amount of muscle without protein supplements and even build a little . If I do take protein supplements , I build quite a bit of muscle ..... As I said , right now at the moment , I do not require a protein supplement.
I am the same muscluar size as I have been for years and I have the same amount of strength .... So I don't NEED additional protein to maintain my muscle at this present point of my life. Also as you can see , I'm not on a low calorie diet. In fact you would say I'm not even dieting at all - just a slight cut back ....

Fourhooks , here is one of my old diet plans .... Trust me , I know what I'm doing. Just because I tell you I ate hot dogs and fried chicken fingers and no protein supplement , that doesn't mean I have no knowledge. It only means I'm not in a hard core stage at the moment.
The one thing I'm good at is understanding my own body. You look at what I do per day and you would think its worthless - but , I'm losing weight and getting stronger .... Thats because I know my own body. As time goes on , you will see things change to a more structured type of fitness in both eating and training.

12 week diet plan

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Meal #1 7:45am

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Meal #2 11:30am

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- 2 slices of Stone Ground Whole Wheat Bread
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- 8oz of grilled Chicken Breast, 6oz of Tuna Fish (light Mayo), 6oz of Roast Beef<o></o>
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- 3 UDO capsules with daily supply of pure Creatine Monohydrate – 5 to 10 grams<o></o>
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- 2 cups of Romaine or IceBerg Lettuce. With Cucumber, Red Onion, Balsamic or Red wine vinegar, small amount of Olive Oil.
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- 8oz of Shepherds salad. Use salt, lemon, vinegar, crushed red pepper to season

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- 8oz Grilled Chicken Breast, 6oz Tuna Fish, 6oz Roast Beef <o></o>
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Meal #4 6:00pm

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- 3 Rice Cakes. Quaker brand – White Cheddar Cheese & Butter flavor are a good choice.
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- 10oz of Beef – 93% Ground Beef, lean Sirloin Steak, Fillet Mingion, Flank Steak
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- 10oz 93% Ground Turkey meat patties, Pork Tenderloin<o></o>
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Yes Tyler. Creatine will make you retain water . However , it effects everyone different. It sounds like you had a bad experience.
How many grams per day were you taking ?
Back in the day during a muscle building phase , I was taking 10 grams per day. I had no side effects except slight water retention.
At the moment I'm taking a minimal dosage of 3.5 grams a day with hardly a noticable water retention factor.

 

I was taking 5000mg. I believe it does effect people different. Some people I have read had absolutely no benifit, others made significant gains.

Bob Sapp said thats all he takes in supplements, I guess it worked good for him :jester:

 

I'm sorry bro, but you're wrong....Not everyone is different in this regard....Muscle needs protien to survive, end of story.....Muscles dont build off of creatine, they may be fueled by it, but they arent built on it

 

Hooks , do you realize that YOU are telling ME that I'm wrong about MY own body that I have been working with for 17 years ?

Who said I was trying to build muscle off of creatine ?? Did I say that ? - NO
Don't tell me about Protein. I have eaten more protein supplements and shakes in my life then you probably have had glasses of water ....

Whatever you think you know , I probably did 3 times over already.
I just don't think you understand where I'm coming from.
You are acting like I'm training for the Olympics when in reality I am just losing a few pounds WITHOUT diving into a full blown fitness only mentality. I also told you I was not trying to build muscle at the moment ....

If you think what I'm posting up is what I would use to get in good shape and build muscle , you are sadly mistaken. I'm posting up what I'm currently doing at the moment. Nothing more. You are reading to far into it.

 

This morning : 6/16/06
Skipped the gym this morning do to "crying baby" difficulties.
I plan on running 3 or 4 miles at 5.8 when I get home tonight. 3 minimum

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
2 fig newtons
1 scoop tuna on whole wheat
Salad with dressing
Various vitamins - creatine
2 bowls of corn flakes , 2% milk
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT 204 -
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say bro, you dont want people to give you their opinions and input, dont post your fucking shit on the internet.....


I dont give a fuck what you think you know about you're body, protien is more important to muscle salvation during times of calorie depravation than creatine, period.....So take all of your protien shakes you claim to have drank in your 17 years and shove them up your bloated ass

 

You aren't to smart ... Are you ?

Lets get something straight right now. I'm not bloated. I would out run you , out lift you , and out fight you any day of the week .... So if anyone would be getting something shoved up their ass , it would be you ....

Second , you never gave your opinion. You threw your word around as if it was Gods written law ...

Third , for the 5th time , I'm not on a calorie deprived diet and I'm not attempting to build muscle.

Take your dumb young ass and get the fuck outa here ..
Go tell your little friends how to diet and work out.

If you had ANY kind of a brain , you would have realized from the start that I'm not in a serious mode right now and more or less posting a daily activity.
Even after I told you that , you still acted like an ASS ....

WTF is wrong with you ?

 

I'll just address this and make an attempt to re-civilize things.....Go up a couple of posts and look at what you say you ate.....That is an extremely low number of calories....

other than that, whatever bro:inbed:

 

This is low calorie ? :nixweiss:

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
2 fig newtons
1 small grilled chicken Cesar salad
Chicken fingers (breaded - fried) with honey mustard
Various vitamins - creatine
2 hot dogs with cheese
1 cup vegatable rice
1 cup Ice cream
Water throughout the day