Dana White HATES Randy Couture and will continue to hate him as long as he's alive

On Couture going to Bellator: "When I told you guys before that I'm happy, I'm telling you guys I'm happy that he's gone. I'm happy that he's gone and he's gone forever and he's with them."

On his issue with how Couture handled the jump: "Randy Couture, it was around Christmas time, and his lawyer sends in a letter and cancels, like bails on the last show that he's doing for us. He doesn't want to do the last show after they begged me for a f---ing job. So I'm like, 'What the hell is going on here?' I start digging around, and I find out that he's talking about doing a deal with Bellator and Spike. I call his lawyer. I went 'me' on his lawyer is the best way I can explain it. Then I called Randy. I called him over and over and over again. He wouldn't even answer his phone. Then he texts me and said, 'What's up boss? I hear you're flipping out. I did not sign a deal with Spike or Bellator, but I'm talking to two other networks right now.' I said, 'If you tell me that you did not bail on my last f---ing fight and go do a deal with them, I don't give a s--- what network you sign with. I don't care if it's freaking HBO, the Food Network – I could care less who it is. Are you saying you did not sign a deal?' 'I did not sign a deal with them. Stop worrying. Relax. Have a great Christmas. We'll talk later.' To this f---ing day sitting right here, right now, we still have not talked."

On Couture not being honest: "We're not unreasonable people. I know I have this image like I'm some absolute lunatic that flies off the handle and just starts ruining lives for no reason whatsoever. It's f---ing ridiculous. If Randy Couture was a man, walked into our office and said, 'Here's the deal: I've got one more fight with you guys for the FOX thing. I'd like to do it. I have another offer on the table, and it's with f---ing Bellator. I need to make a living, too. Am I with you guys? Am I not with you guys? Do you want to match my deal? Do you want to beat my deal?' Or how about this: 'F--- you guys. I can't stand you, and I'm leaving. I thought I'd be a man about it and tell you to your face.' That's not Randy Couture. When I made the comment the other day about the 'Captain America' thing, ask anybody who's ever been in business with Randy Couture if they like being in business with Randy Couture. There's so much stuff that's out there that you don't even know. And whatever. The guy's going around making a living. There's the whole story, the way that it went down, and I respect him. There's no more of a man when that cage door closes, and there's no less of a man when he steps outside of it."

On Ryan Couture's UFC future: "After I talked to you guys, I called Ryan Couture, and I said, 'Ryan, let me put it to you this way: This is probably going to be the weirdest conversation you're ever going to have with me.' 'You signed a deal with us to fight in the UFC. I want you here if you want to be here, but I need you to understand this: Me and your dad are not good. Me and your dad are never going to be good – ever, ever again as long as I walk this f---ing planet. I know he's your dad, and I don't want to – you know, I'm calling you up telling you how much I don't like your father. But if you want to leave the UFC' – because he's not cornering him; Randy Couture can't buy a ticket to this motherf---ing event, OK? So I said, 'He's not going to be around, and I just want to be up front with you. You know how I am. I want to be honest, and I want to be up front. If you want me to release you from your contract so you can go do a deal with Bellator and have your dad and maybe work with him and do whatever, I would do that for you, too.' He said to me, 'Every kid who's ever strapped on a pair of gloves is dreaming about fighting in the UFC. If they say they're not, they're either lying or they're stupid. This is my dream. I want to be with you guys. Listen, he's my dad, and he's always going to be my dad, but this is where I want to be. I've worked my ass off to get here.' I said, 'Well let me tell you this: This is your house. Don't ever feel like it's not. Don't ever feel like if you walk down the hallway at our show that you're not part of this team and part of this family. I'm honored that you said that, and bro, we're happy to have you.' I just felt like that was something that I had to do. I had to talk to him. The kid's either with us or he's not. And I don't mean him. I mean I want him to feel like if he stays with us, he's with us. There's no hard feelings for him because of what's going on with me and Randy or anything like that. I just wanted to reach out and make him feel comfortable if he wanted to stay, and I wanted to give him the option if he wanted to go with his dad, too. I didn't want him to be in some situation where it's like, 'Now these guys get in a fight with my dad, and I'm stuck in this contract with them.' You know what I mean?"

On whether he will minimize Couture's UFC accomplishments the way some say he has Frank Shamrock's: "Frank Shamrock is a d--k. Frank Shamrock literally never shuts up. He's always popping off about something. He's always got something stupid to say. Frank Shamrock came out with a statement the other day and wants to fight me. You know what I mean? Give me a f---ing break. The guy is a clown. I just have no respect for Frank Shamrock. That's the difference. Couture, I don't respect him at all – not even a little bit. The only time that Randy Couture is ever a man is when he steps foot in that cage. As soon as his big toe steps out of that cage, he's the furthest thing from it. That's it. That's the way I feel about him. I don't at all disrespect what he did in the sport, and as much of a man that I think he's not, he was 100 percent a man when he stepped in that cage. It is what it is."
Read more at http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/27...Randy-Couture-Is-Gone.htm#ULqEMym8XpLCEST2.99

 

Dana talks about Randy not "being a man" outside the cage, but man, Dana sounds like the biggest bitch on planet earth in that article. And it again goes back to him not being any where near professional enough to be in the position he is in.

 

Yup. He's too emotional and outspoken to be the face of a business in my mind. I like his honesty for most part but I think the power he has goes to his head and he freely burns way too many bridges. I think it's all because he knows that for now UFC is the only major game in town and he feels he can get away with it. If Bellator was on par with UFC and say strikeforce as well (before they bought them) then I bet he would be way more tactful.

 

Dana White reminds me of George Steinbrenner. They both take (took) things way too personally.

But at the end of the day, you can't argue with their success.

TFK

 

By the way, you were right. This got under White's skin far deeper than I thought it would.

 

People have been saying that for years, yet the UFC just keeps growing and growing.

TFK

 

He acts like a jealous hoe. He was the same way with Jones and he just wouldn't fight someone on two weeks notice. The schtick gets old.

 

This really just sums it up. His job is to make the UFC successful and he's been extremely proficient at that.

 

Yep... I guess you really can't argue when you look at it that way.

 

Agreed. The whole "holding the organisation back" thing is getting old now.

I'm not a Dana fan, but if he was holding the organisation back, it wouldn't be as successful as it is. Simple as that.

 

I think Dana's behavior and personality suit his target audience, too--under 30 to teenage guys who consider themselves tough.
Contrast him to Bjorn Rebney, a guy I'm only familiar with on his bellator appearances, but a guy who seems very classy and professional.

Would the UFC had been as successful with a guy like Rebney running the show over the past 10 years? I think the only guess is no.

For starters, it takes a certain level of unsophistication to create the monopoly that the UFC has become. Buying out every competitor is something that educated MBA and risk averse lawyer types are probably going to avoid to keep from getting hammered by anti-trust laws. However, for a guy like Dana whose education probably consists of kicking ass at Monopoly and poker, he's been single-mindedly focused on one thing--making the UFC the only game in town--damn the fighters, damn fairplay, damn the laws. And the UFC is the only game in town.

 

That's kind of funny considering this thread is about a guy going to another game in town.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant. :)

 

To REED, you Never Question the MANHOOD of Another Man, Unless You're Prepared to PHYSICALLY ADDRESS the Issue w/that Man...

Randy Couture Made an ASTUTE BUSINESS DECISION, Something that Occurs DAILY in the Business World...Something Dana White has Done THOUSANDS of Times Over the Years...He's just PISSY that Couture 1 Upped Him...It's Actually FUNNY to See how Rattled he Is about All of this...



REED:atu:

 

THIS!!!....



REED:hammert:

 

Yeah, that was my initial thought while reading Dana's quote. My dad always said don't say anything about a person that you wouldn't say if you were locked in a room alone with them. Do you think Dana would say the same things in that scenario?

At the end of the day Dana is pissed because Couture is the one fighter that has made a career out of having his way with the UFC from a business standpoint.

 

If they were Locked in a Room Alone, Dana White would Get on his Knees and "Pay Homage" to Randy Couture's PENIS, Quicker that he'd Fight Him...




REED:hammert:

 

Couture going to Bellator doesn't make them a player. They aren't. Perhaps one day, but certainly not now.

I was describing mma to a friend like this...UFC is the world amateur wrestling championships, Bellator is the college championships, all of the other mma organizations (ignoring Dream) are like individual state championships. There are a few college wrestlers who are capable of doing well on the world scene, but not many.

 

Worse, White is the Type of Frontrunning BEYOTCH to Question Someone's Manhood, then SUE that Person, if they Confronted him....





REED:wack:

 

Bellator must be on the rise. Spike is certainly better than MTV2 and Epix.

However, I don't think Dana is scared; he's just the alpha wolf who likes killing male pups out of instinct.

 

I don't know how the ratings look so far, but they started their new season on Spike TV and, as a result, are getting a ton more promotion among MMA's target demographic.

I think they are going to eventually have some star power in guys like Chandler and Askren, but I think they need to figure a way to let their champs defend their belts more than once a year.

They're not threatening the UFC by any means, but every single one of these Couture-type stories makes Bellator a little more known.

 

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Whether you consider Bellator a 'player' or not really isn't the point. The point is that the UFC certainly isn't the "only game in town". I think the fact that they were willing to go toe-to-toe with the UFC to get Alvarez underscores this. And the fact that Couture left the UFC to sign with Bellator probably double underscores it.

But again, those are just annoying facts. Please disregard.