Devon vs Tim Bradley is on

January showdown a week before the Super Bowl. Should be a great start to the 2011 boxing season. I got Devon in this one.

http://www.stlamerican.com/articles/2010/09/09/sports/local_sports/sports02.txt

 

Nice!

I would agree with you, but that Kotelnik fight is in my head now. Still, I'll stick with my guns and go with Alexander.

 

Finally this is on. This is one of the best fights that can be made right now.

 

Great fight! Viva Boxing!

 

This has 12 round decision written all over it. Any word on the venue?

 

Boxscene actually reported today that the fight is in Jeopardy. The fat waste of life Shaw wants Timmy to sign a contract extension in order to make the fight, but Timmy doesnt wanna do that. So Bradley still hasnt signed, therefore its not official yet.

The sport truly is being ruined by greed. And Jan 29th? Yeah, ok.... like original dates actually hold up anymore.

We wont see this fight til like March or April.

 

The Lou.

 

Better than Vegas. Alexander can't win a decision in Vegas against the come-forward Bradly, IMHO. Then again anybody not named Tim Bradley cannot win a decision against Alexander in Missoura.

 

For Fuck sake. Fuck boxing! ::

 

It had to have been either in the Lou, or at Agua Caliente. Anywhere else and they'd be lucky to sell 10 ticks.

 

They were talking about DC and New Orleans as well.

I don't blame Shaw for wanting Timmy to re-up. Why should he make this fight, just to let Bradley bolt and wind up with Golden Boy, which - given his managerial arrangement with Cameron Dunkin - is where he will most likely next go.

That said, Bradley's in a spin. Even if he doesn't extend his contract with Shaw, the other big issue holding up this fight is the fact that King wants options on several future fights. Bradley's side is willing to agree to an immediate rematch, and for it to take place no later than June.

Put it altogether, and it spells out that he wants his contract to run out, give Alexander a rematch if he has to and then explore his options. I don't blame him, but it's not going to happen. Sadly, it sounds like neither will this fight.

 

if those reasons outlined above are why bradley is hesitant to make the match then who can blame him.

 

Absolutely ruined by this new phenomenon.

 

What Shaw should do is concentrate on creating relationships his fighters would want to renew, instead of trying to guilt them and strong-arm them into signing with him. I think the same shit happened with Donaire, didn't it?

 

You're right. It's been like that all along. Who are we to object to it and recognize its negative impact on the sport?

 

what is it w/ fighters dumping shaw after he lands meaningful fights for them?

 

Like you said...can't blame bradley. Plus, if he breaks to Golden Boy it helps Golden Boy keep him away from Khoward. They'd sacrifice Ortiz to him before they put him in with Khoward.

 

they realize Shaw is a B side promoter.

 

If this keeps up one or both guys will have a loss on their record by the time the fight gets made and probably knock some of the luster off of the hype.

 

Well, it's not quite that cut and dry.

Part of the deal in Tim getting this fight is that Shaw also negotiated three televised dates for him in 2011. Now, maybe Golden Boy does the same, but at the same time it's still shitty for a fighter to have a promoter negotiate something like that on his behalf, and then turn around and use it as leverage to see if someone can match or do better.

Wink caught a lot of shit and rightfully so for having Shaw negotiate the Taylor fight and then trying to back door him and instead use his own shell promotional company.

So in that sense, yes I would hold it against Bradley if he went that route.

I'd rather see this fight get made, and then upon his contract expiring, Shaw gets right of first refusal, rather than this fight not getting made at all, Bradley going cold in riding out the rest of his contract, and he and Shaw wasting their time and the sport's by threatening to sue each other.

 

Well, maybe if Shaw could negotiate deals for him on HBO, where fighters make the most money, Bradley would want to resign. Bradley doesn't owe Shaw shit.

 

I agree. At the end of a fighters contract shouldn't he be allowed to see who can offer him the best options? Is what he doing really strong arming or seeing who can offer him the best earnings on future fights?

 

What are you talking about? The deal IS with HBO.

 

Not that I think it happens but if you look at Top Rank and Golden Boy in terms of PPV dates and potential money, smart money says you go with Golden Boy rather than stay with Shaw.

I'm sure gary can get him three TV dates which begs the question for how much.

Gary shouldn't be that surprised...isn't Bradley trying to do to him the same he did to the guys at Thompson boxing?

lastly, we don't know (at least I don't) how much Gary takes off the top before Bradley gets paid. Gary supposedly "helped" Pacquiao after Pac left Murad Muhammad then we find out Gary made more for Pac's fight with Morales than Pac himself.

It's not as though Gary's hands are completely clean.

 

I was actually getting ready to say, I never blamed Pac for leaving Gary. In going from Shaw to Top Rank, all Pacquiao did was eliminate the middleman, since he didn't once fight on a genuine GSP card.

Ditto for guys like Wright (although how it came about in the end was messed up), Shane, etc.

On paper, I agree that from a business standpoint, you sign with Golden Boy. But even then, Bradley will have to worry about being second fiddle to Khan, and whether or not he even gets to fight someone like Ortiz, whom HBO remains in love with.

For that, he might as well give options to King, especially if he already has dates locked up with HBO. It's entirely possible that Desert Storm Promotions is created in all of this, an excuse for the networks to deal directly with him.

Anyway, like I said, I'm for whatever solution ultimately gives us Bradley-Alexander on 1/29. It's ridiculous that we even have to wait that long for the fight, no excuse for it to extend beyond that or worse not happen at all.

 

i find it interesting that a non-Al Haymon fighter can get a multi-fight deal with HBO...the network who claims they're out of the multi-fight deal business. Especially for a guy like Tim Bradley. Doesn't make sense to me.

 

He's less that a B side promoter.

 

Chad Dawson isnt with Haymon, and took back-to-back multi-million dollar paydays before having to fight someone under 40.

Shaw asked for a two-fight deal with Bradley rather than to let his contract run out. Included in the deal is the Alexander fight, for which Bradley would get $1.5 million.

I know if this fight doesn't get made, people will blame Shaw. But if Bradley balks at a deal that basically extends his contract no more than a month or two, then he's a fuckin' idiot and has some seriously spiteful people whispering in his ear.

To turn down that much money, tells me that his handlers have already secured a deal with Golden Boy, to take place at 12:01am on the day his contract expires.

 

I like Khan and Maidana a lot more than Bradley or Alexander. I wish there were different matchups at this point.

Assuming Bradley is juice-free, I like him well enough although he's fairly bland as a fighter. Alexander is over-rated, imo, so I hope he gets starched, but he seems okay, I guess. That King can sell him says a lot about King.

 

So U Think Alexander is "Overrated", U Hope he "Gets Starched", yet U Actually LIKE Khan, who's LITERALLY BEEN "Starched"???...N LESS than a Round, By a Guy that Really HASN'T Done Much Since???...

agREED that there's Really NATHAN "Special" about Tim Bradley, Other than his RESUME...




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