Did anyone think that Hatton's KO shot...

...seemed a bit behind the back? I just saw the fight, and when it landed, it looked like, just before the shot, he leapt forward and it landed on Castillo's back?

I had no money on the fight, had no interest in who won, and was happy for a pleasing, action-packed scrap...but the shot looked suspect to me.

I'm open to opposing viewpoints, so what are your thoughts one way or the other?

 

It was clearly an illegal shot and Hatton should've been DQed.
Yours truly, Double L.

 

PINPOINT Shot...

Not even Castillo Complained about it...


REED

 

looked to me like it was right under the arm-pit, which would've been legal.

i can't believe castillo couldn't get up. fuck.

 

Why did you change your sig, Double L?

 

dude, fuck you. what do you want from me?

 

A response to the question above :dunno:
In case you missed the question, here it is again.....
Why did you change your sig?

 

i know. but just minutes before, you asked me why i hadn't changed it. so fuck off.

 

I did not ask you anything of the sort......I said "I like your signature".
At the time I said it your signature was different than it is now. So, I ask you why you changed it, that's all.

 

So U Think he was UNable to Get Up,DOUB???

Some of Us have Been Debating Whether Castillo COULD or COULDN'T...What's your Take??

REED

 

i don't know. it's hard to believe he "couldn't" get up. so then, you ask yourself, why would a guy like that quit? surely he's been throgh worse and it's only the fourth round - it's not like he'd lost the fight. hatton was only gonna get more and more tired.

so while it's possible that castillo quit, i tend to think it makes more sense to assume he was simply froZen by the shot and was in so much pain that winning the fight was no longer a priority.

whatever the case, you have to question castillo's desire at this point, compared to what it's been previously.

and people say he's always been a slow starter but he's never been bullied in a fight like he was by Hatton. it's possible that mentally he wasn't prepared for that - even when he was losing early like in the PBF fights or to a lesser extent the Lazcano fight, he was moving forward and controlling the pace.

Hatton's approach of lunging in, grabbing, pushing Castillo around might have spooked Castillo.

just hard to believe. and even if you wanted hatton to win, i gotta think the fight was a disappointment in terms of delivering what it was supposed to be - a war.

and hatton's full of shit to try to frame this as some sort of return to form. only thing that prevented it from being a tedious hack-job like the ones against collazo and urango was the fact that he got castillo out of there. 8 rounds later, if castillo were still there, it would've been the same old hack-job hatton - holdin and hittin like a tired bitch.

 

If you have ever been hit by a liver shot, you could understand why he was unable to get up. It really is quite paralyzing.

 

i agree. it is literally paralyzing.

i mean, take a guy like Dorin, or R. Green, guys we know have plenty of heart - they were frozen by similar shots.

and ODH too. it happens. just seems like 10 seconds in some cases could be enough time to recover, but apparently not always the case.

 

NO...not De La Hoya....:nono:..that was a fix...

 

what was any different about his. it was the same fucking place he got him in - right under the armpit

 

please that "punch" was a lil tap...


"Ohh body shot, body shot..."....10 seconds later DLH is in the canvas from a tap "body shot"...

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bid difference..
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and just when he knows he has been counted out he gets his power back and start hitting the canvas..... Dorin, Castillo were paralized by the shot...took 'em a few minutes to recover....not dlh..he has super powers...

 

REED GENUINELY Feels for ya,DOUB...

It's a SICK,TWISTED Form of Boxing FATE,that 2 of your Faves were KO'ed by Bodyshots....SAME Punch,SAME Part of the Body...

The Boxing Gods R just TESTING your Love for the Sport,Dog...Keep ya Head Up,Man...


REED

 

Like I said in another thread, everytime Hatton broke off an exchange, he threw the left to the body. I think the shot was legit and castillo was in pain but he may have thought discretion was the better part of valor in this case.

Legal shot. Perfectly placed with the right amount of force. I don't believe JLC could get up but I won't argue the point.

 

I like the subtlety of that fix.

"Body shot! Body shot! Body shot! Body shot!"

 

Castillo sort of implied that he could have gotten up.

Didn't he say something like 'it would have only gotten worse for me after that shot' in the post fight interview?

The shot was damn hard. It seemed side, maybe even slightly back (Jones/Hill) at first, but on the replay, one angle shows it coming across the front. I don't think there's any doubt it was technically legal.

There's absolutely no doubt that even if it was slightly behind, it would be considered legal for every fighter against every other fight anywhere in the world, though.

 

He stayed down for a good while. And he stayed on his stool for a good while longer.

What gets me is that he wheeled away from the shot and then kneeled down.

He didn't just crumple.

I once took it right in the plexus and I simply collapsed.

How he was able to wheel away after the shot and then collapse...:dunno:

 

He couldn't have gotten up from that. That was a legit shot and his reaction is consistent with getting nailed with a liver shot.

Unlike Oscar's quit job, when you get hit like that, you're not rolling around on the ground...you're frozen.

 

Gatti survived a shot like that against Ward. That shows how tough Gatti is/was.

 

No it doesn't, it shows that hatton hits a fuck load harder than ward.

 

Bullshit ... Oscar was down and for a long time before he expressed his anger by punching the canvas ....

This is why I laugh when people say "if he was really hurt he would have been able to punch the canvas" - well he didn't punch the canvas for a long time after the fact ...

 

Yeah...as good as Wards left to the Liver was, I think Hattons is pretty darn good, and above all, Hatton is very very repetitive with it. Remember Manny screaming that Ward had to KEEP going to the body against Gatti...while Ward stood there getting his head punched off. No way Hatton needs an invitation.:nono:

 

word.

Castillo's reaction was VERY genuine. His initially reaction was to get the hell away from Hatton and run and cry to his mommy. That was the kind of pain he was in. It brought out the basic fetal instincts. He then remembered that he was a grown ass man, and stopped and kneeled, frozen in agony.

 

Do you think Hatton hits harder then Bernard ?