Django Unchained

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  1. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    I watched this last night. I enjoyed the Shultz character but I thought the treatment of the subject matter felt a bit fucked up, the 'show down' gunfight was daft and the violence was gratuitous. I'm back to feeling like Tarantino's a bit pish after he half won me over with Inglorious Bastards.

    What did you guys think about it? Like it?
     
  2. Anthony

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    It was fucking amazing. I enjoyed how they went from it being a slave movie to a movie about a cowboy. By the end, he was a clint eastwood type character. And unlike eastwood's characters, you actually see what made him a legend and what made him feared instead of hearing about it. "The fastest gun in the west"
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I didn't quite get the obvious satire of the end, I need to watch it again. Apart from that I really liked it, the dialogue and characters were pure Tarantino. I also liked the point of view how the Civil War, like any war ever, gets started on personal level, despite historians find larger reasons for them later
     
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    When was the civil war discussed in the movie?
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    The bitterness of the slaves and the rise against sadistic landlord was IMO a clear reference since the story dates to the times right before the war
     
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    you think the civil war started because of the bitterness of slaves?
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    No, I am saying that events that eventually lead to wars go back to personal level and in this movie it is portrayed through the bitterness of slaves
     
  8. Anthony

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    sorry, maybe Im just really slow today or something, but i dont know what you are talking about. He wasnt bitter because he was a slave. He was bitter because they took his wife.
     
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    Rainmaker "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I have to agree with Hut. Trying to fit in slavery in a cowboy action movie with comedic notes feels a bit strange.
     
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    That's what tarantino does. No different than what he did with Inglorious bastards.
     
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    I don't need to watch this to know it likely blows, since every other movie from that idiot does
     
  12. Hut*Hut

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    To me taking the Nazis lightly is cool but a 'Tarintino approach' to the holocaust would have been a bit off. This one felt on the other side of that subtle line a couple of times....I didn't find it 'offensive' or anything, i like that hes trying to do weird things, but the tone and the subject matter didn't gel right for me. There's some completely harrowing stuff in it mixed with some total comic book stuff. It made me a bit uncomfortable. But maybe that was the point.
     
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    Andrew "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I enjoyed Django Unchained much more than Inglorious Bastards.
     
  14. Anthony

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    Django is a much better watch the second time around as well.
     
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    1. Pulp Fiction
    2. Reservoir Dogs
    3. Inglorious Basterds
    4. Death Proof
    5. Jackie Brown
    6. Django Unchained
    7. and 8. Kill Bill movies
     
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    1. Jackie Browne
    2. Pulp Fiction
    3. Django Unchained
    4. Inglorious Bastards
    5. Kill Bill Movies
    6. Reservoir Dogs
    7. Death Proof.

    But none of the movies are below an 8 IMO.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Of course. And how could they take his wife? Since they were slaves. And this created the bitterness.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    IMO the point in IB was that the viewer cheers for the Bastards and loathes the Nazis even though both sides are portrayed as mindless sadists (and at the end Nazis are giggling for same kind of movie as the viewer is just watching). As Hans Landa says in the first scene, people hate rats but not squirrels even though there is no actual reason for that and he hates Jews but not others even though they don't touch him on personal level.

    The humor parts I viewed as satire, how wars and horrible events of the history become entertainment in pop culture (Tarantino's style is so over the top that it is obvious he isn't serious)
     
  19. Hut*Hut

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    I'm not sure. I think you might be projecting too much depth onto the man.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    As Lex Luther said....some people can read war and peace and come away thinking its a simple love story :lol: Ugo can read the back of a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe :bears:
     
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    Death Proof wasn't that good
     
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    :lol::cheers: that is my job as a literature teacher, to find a (usually non-existing) meaning from books and poems and preach it to others.

    However, I do think Tarantino has plenty of point in his movies (apart from Death Proof), he just uses unique ways to express himself
     
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    Talk to me in 10 years.
     
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    seriously, that film was an abysmal failure...
     
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    Jackie Browne was great but it wasn't as good as Pulp fiction and ten years won't change a damn thing about it. Anthony just has an exclusive taste.
     
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    It was a perfect indictment of the moron who directed it
     
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    He doesnt have to think it's better than pulp. He doesnt think the movie was even good.
     
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    Dude stop wasting your time. Nobody agrees with you on Tarantino.
     
  30. His_Royness

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    Ah I thought he just disagreed with the number 1 spot - in this case 10 years will definitely not change anything.
     

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