Its a shame that one of the best techncians to ever lace em up has hung not only all his fans out to dry, but also the very sport that gave him fame in the first place. Floyd managed to become a cross over SUPERSTAR, and had another crossover SUPERSTAR as a worthy opponent... it was the fight the sport NEEDED and CRAVED..... and Floyd just FUCKS us with no lube! I'll ALWAYS admire his brilliant skills and talent in the ring, but its hard to be a fan anymore. But above all.... I'm a fan of the SPORT first, and individual fighters second. So with that said. FUCK YOU FLOYD! Dear, boxing fans.
You shouldn't be surprised, X. Floyd retired for 2 years between 2007 and 2009. Doing absolutely nothing inbetween those years. He came back and now will be retiring for another couple of years. It's not like he was an active fighter in the first place, let alone an entertaining one. Floyd/Baldomir, Floyd/DLH, and Floyd/Marquez.....please spare me! ::
why get so emotional? he released one statement saying he isnt concerned with boxing right now. maybe he'll fight the dude next year. if not, he still had an excellent career.
Well of course he still had an excellent career. But the SPORT which made Floyd all his millions demands this fight. The problem with Floyd is... he believes he's BIGGER then the sport.
There's nothing ridiculous as a boxing fan to be very dissapointed & frustrated in/ by PBF. What's ridiculous is those who even now continue to make excuses for him. Probably the same who contribute to his hypothetical resume. It's been interesting to see those numbers diminishing as the truth becomes harder to deny, the silence of some who were so vocal, and the last resort responses of "it's no big-deal" from others.
Yep, he'll still retire a millionaire. I found it surprising that guys on here are irate over Floyd not wanting the fight. He even openly said over a month ago that he is taking a few years off in a youtube video. He's not interested in boxing anymore. It was just about making a few quick paydays as he was a bit low on money. He did get his house robbed after all a couple years back and hadn't invested his money very well so it's understandable why he returned. Once he's broke again in about 2 years, he'll be back to take another couple of fights and will retire again. By then, Pacman will be exposed or finished with boxing anyway.
The thing is though, Floyd is not responsible to any boxing fan out there. He has the right to say 'fuck you' to all of us (which he has). He has made millions and his health is intact, if he feels this is the moment to retire, then why not to do it? Of course that will change his historical ranking, but again that is a problem for fan, he does not have to give a shit.
Of course he can say "fuck you" to all of us. So what? That's like the old "I really think (insert fighters name) here really cares what you think" When I'm not typing on this forum, 99.9% of the time PBF doesn't enter my mind. I've never mistaken this forum for real life. That's why I can never be upset about/ take personally what anybody here ever writes. However, this is a boxing forum & we are boxing fans. As such it is natural as boxing fans, within this forum to be frustrated & dissapointed in him.
It's ok he is satisfied with his career. What's not ok is when he sees Pacquaio reaching for IMMORTALITY, highest respect for his legacy, taking on difficult challenges, and he is on the sidelines trying to diminish his accomplishments with rumors and innuendos. I'm a fan of him as a FIGHTER but not of his MANEUVERING to avoid his biggest threats.
great post, any real boxing fans feels the same too, groupies and cheerleaders won't though. Floyd pimps the sport with safe money fights or at best, calculated risks.
BUt we only have ourselves to blame, when Floyd fought Gatti, nobodie should have bought the PPV, same when he fought Judah, Baldomir of JMM. Now he knew he could make boatload of cash wihtout facing the best.
Yeah. I'm definately not a fan of the simultaneously avoid fighting AND discredit the opponent maneuver.
I agree. You've got to be a HARDCORE Floyd taintlicker to be still hanging on and making excuses for him at this point. The man has been EXPOSED for what he is. Boxing moves on.
Boxing, perhaps more than any other sport, is a sport of pride and a sport of legacy... like it or not The very greatest fighters wanted to be the best, they wanted there to be no dispute... its not just money to the greatest fighters Do you think Duran fought Leonard just for money? He could have had 5 easier fights against average fighters, won them all and made the same money without having a difficult fight... he wanted to beat Leonard to be THE MAN, to be the best, to test himself against the best... and vice versa Leonard came out of retirement to fight Hagler just for money? hell no, it is because Hagler was the best, and he wanted to beat him Muhammad Ali was already the most famous boxer ever in 1974, he could have had a bunch more fights, living off of his name, for several years... but he wanted his title, he wanted Foreman, he wanted to shock the world The greatest fighters share the common legacy of not liking it when someone else is considered a rival to their status... they want to remove all doubt... this kind of tepid, dispassionate, black-and-white "its only business" outlook that Floyd has is what caused Roy Jones to be viewed so divisively when he was at his best, why to this day people still argue about his place in history, despite his obvious jaw-dropping talents The great ones have that inner arrogance and defiance of not wanting anyone else getting the attention, they want to be the king... Pacquiao has been trying to do that, trying to stake his claim as THE MAN... Mayweather just doesnt seem to care that Pacquiao has knocked him off his perch (or at the very least is now sharing it with him) as boxings best I know some people here are just too cool for things like legacy, desire, hunger, etc. but they are lost, they fail to understand that the ones who are great, indisputably great, the ones no one would argue against (Ali, Robinson, Louis, Duran, Leonards Ray and Benny, Charles, Pep, etc.) HATED the idea of anyone else being considered better than they were and they pursued those who might be their equals or better with fire in their eyes... thats HOW they became what they are within the sport: IMMORTAL
Yes...but you are forgetting something- Floyd Mayweather barely knows who the fuck those fighters are.hno:hno:
If Roy Jones had retired after the John Ruiz fight, he'd be regarded very highly right now even despite having taken calculated risks throughout his career. Now, with all those losses, his legacy is completely in shambles. It's something Mayweather wants to avoid. He desperately wants to keep that undefeated streak as it will elevate his rep further over the years.
Couldn't have put it better myself. Boxing has always been an alpha male type of sport where its about you fighting someone because you want to be the best. The money is what it is. Its there and if your a superstar you'll make big money regardless of whom you fight, and thats why Floyd's act of "making smart business decisions" does not work because does anybody actually believe that he would have made more money fighting Baldomir than Margarito??.. Just an example. Also the dismissive way in which he acts about the whole Manny Pacquiao situation. Its almost like he either doesn't care or doesn't REALIZE that Pacquiao has become THE GUY... Everytime they bring up Manny Pacquiao he dismissively turns it into something along the lines of "I'm not thinking about Manny Pacquiao, the sport of boxing, or whatever, I'm just doing my own thing". ^^^Thats one of the biggest reasons he's losing fans now more than ever. I could never picture a Roberto Duran having been ok with having Sugar Ray Leonard being called the best. He would have gone to hell and back if he had to, to make CERTAIN that he got his opportunity to fight him. He got it anyway, but I know you see my point. Floyd just doesn't have the mentality of a champion. He one time said something like "We're not in the sport trying to find out who the best is, its about making the money." I sometimes wonder if Floyd either doesn't know what he's saying or if he truly believes that. Because when other fighters would be mentioned as being great or whatever, he then lashes out saying "You don't know shit about boxing". :doh: How do you argue with someone like that??.. And now this. He has the biggest challenge in his career in front of him and refuses to sign???.... I'm confused. First it was about drug testing, and now that Pacquiao has AGREED to it, he simply says "I'm not thinking about boxing right now". I could care less if Floyd retired honestly.
Don't worry: Floyd will face Manny AFTER Manny gets soundly defeated in the future. Leonard retired when the whole world was salivating to watch him and Hagler fight. A couple of years later, when he saw Hagler struggling with an old Roberto Duran, Leonard came out of retirement for a direct bout with Hagler. Floyd is following the same strategy that Leonard used.
It's laughable that Floyd continually brings his name up as one of the best ever while pulling shit like this. What a joker.
This is a good post. I think what makes Floyd such a frustrating and unlikeable figure is that his psyche is something of a bizarre contradiction. Historically, as you point out, great fighters have always wanted to show they were the best, no matter what it took. In order to be a fighter in the first place you must have a high degree of toughness, a will to win, and an extremely competitive nature. But the all-time greats had that and more... it often made them angry just to think about some other guy saying he could beat you! They wanted to win, and they wanted to knock people out. Your examples were excellent. So tell me - how is it that you can have a Floyd Mayweather Jr. who gets into the fight game with (apparently) the desire to be a champion, and puts in years of grueling work to get up near the top.... and then every single time a potentially historical and career-defining bout comes his way... he is disinterested? Even when the money is there. It represents a contradiction that I don't think we've ever quite seen before as boxing fans. The world-class, famous, undefeated, championship boxer who just doesn't have much drive to make any big fights?? How the hell does that even happen? Weirder still is the fact that he isn't necessarily retiring. He is "interested" enough to stay in the fight profession... but just not enough to take any meaningful fights? It just goes against the grain of every other "great" fighter I've ever seen. Yet regardless of this, Floyd still professes to be the best, he claims greatness, he cites how he would beat everyone if they ever fought. Clearly it seems important to him to be perceived as the best. So why no motivation to prove it? This is what is so maddening about him. If he said he was scared of so-and-so, I guess I could understand his reluctance. If he said that he really isn't a "great", and doesn't care to be, I guess I could understand it. If he stayed retired the first time, maybe I could understand that he lost the drive. But no. He un-retires, stays in the game, continues to claim he's the greatest ever, says he'll beat anyone out there, but then refuses to actually fight anyone significant, even when $40 million is waved in his face. What the fuck? I truly hope this attitude goes away forever and dies with Floyd, because it is the WORST possible scenario for boxing. Can you imagine how shitty boxing would be with a bunch of Floyds running around in every division? You'd have mass retirements and un-retirements every week, people moving around the divisions picking off the nobodies but avoiding each other, constant smacktalk from dozens of fighters about being better than Ray Robinson, and after 10 years none of these fighters would ever have actually fought each other.
well in that case it seems that mayweather jr. has another few years of leeway to face pacquiao cuz Leonard sure did take his time with that 1.
The Difference is, Leonard Didn't Fight Because of a Detached RETINA...Floyd's Acting like his VAGINA is Detached... REED:boohoo: