Don King negotiating Trinidad vs. Taylor

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  1. Haymaker

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    According to a local newspaper, here's the google translate version, sorry for errors and mispelling...:lol: google translate sucks

    they want the winner or hps-calzaghe if tito wins his match with taylor


    The tinglado return to the people's champion, Felix 'Tito' Trinidad, could be among the last week of September and early October, revealed yesterday to El Nuevo Dia promoter of the hairs erizados.
    Don King, quien se reunió anoche durante una hora y media en un hotel de la Isla con el padre, manejador y entrenador de Trinidad, Félix Trinidad Rodríguez, identificó como los dos principales candidatos para rivalizar con Tito a Jermain Taylor (27-2-1, 17 KO) y al primer vencedor del isleño, Bernard Hopkins (48-4-1, 32 KO).​
    Don King, who met last night for an hour and a half in a hotel in the island with his father, manager and coach of Trinidad, Felix Trinidad Rodriguez, identified as the two main candidates to compete with Tito to Jermain Taylor (27-2 -- 1, 17 KO) and the first winner of the island, Bernard Hopkins (48-4-1, 32 KO).
    “HBO nos ha ofrecido la última semana de septiembre o la primera de octubre para montar la pelea con Taylor.​
    "HBO has given us the last week of September or the first of October to mount the fight with Taylor.
    Y después podríamos ir ante el ganador de la pelea entre Joe Calzaghe y Hopkinsâ€, dijo King sobre lo que a su entender es el panorama más fácil para definir la próxima pelea de Tito, quien el 19 de enero hizo su segundo 'comeback' del retiro para caer en una abierta decisión unánime ante Roy Jones Jr.​
    And then we could go to the winner of the fight between Joe Calzaghe and Hopkins, "said King about what he understood the big picture is easier to define the next fight Tito, who on January 19 made its second 'comeback' retreat to fall into an open unanimous decision to Roy Jones Jr.

    no me interesan ninguna de las peleas, tito deja de pelear por tu salud...eso es lo primordial.​
    I am not interested in any of the fights, stop tito fight for your health ... that's the first concern.



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    Según la evaluación de King, a Trinidad le conviene ir a pelear con Taylor ya que lo puede noquear y restablecerse como un gran pegador.​
    According to the assessment of King, you should go to Trinidad to fight with Taylor because it can noquear and restored as a great pegador.
    De esa forma entonces tendría la gran oportunidad de retar por el título al supermediano Calzaghe (44-0, 32 KO), si éste sale airoso sobre Hopkins, y, gane o pierda, también puede buscar la ansiada revancha ante Hopkins.​
    That way it would then have a great opportunity to challenge for the title at supermediano Calzaghe (44-0, 32 KO), if he comes out on Hopkins successful, and win or lose, may also seek long-awaited rematch with Hopkins.
    “Esas son las opciones que he propuesto y la que recibiría mi voto.​
    "Those are the options that I have proposed and would receive my vote.
    Pero le dejaremos la decisión a Papá Trinidad.​
    But he will leave the decision to Dad Trinity.
    Él es un genioâ€, destacó King.​
    He is a genius, "said King.
    Trinidad Rodríguez, quien estuvo acompañado en la reunión por su abogado Nicolás Medina y por el consejero financiero Pepe Ramos, dijo a su salida de la reunión que para su bando lo primordial será velar qué sucede en la pelea entre Calzaghe y Hopkins el 19 de abril.​
    Trinidad Rodriguez, who was accompanied at the meeting by his lawyer Nicolas Medina and by the financial adviser Pepe Ramos said on leaving the meeting that his side will be paramount to ensure what happened in the fight between Calzaghe and Hopkins on April 19 .
    “Creo que una pelea con Hopkins es la más atractiva para nosotros.​
    "I believe that a fight with Hopkins is the most attractive for us.
    Vamos a seguir hablando, compartir esta información con Tito, y ver qué pasaâ€, dijo Trinidad Rodríguez, explicando que Tito no pudo asistir a la reunión por unos previos compromisos familiares.​
    We will continue to talk, share this information with Tito, and see what happens, "said Trinidad Rodriguez, explaining that Tito was unable to attend the meeting due to some prior family commitments.
    Mientras, King reconoció que una pelea con Hopkins es llamativa pero también más dura de negociar porque entonces Hopkins se pondrá “echón y querrá exigir másâ€.​
    Meanwhile, King acknowledged that a fight with Hopkins is striking but also harder to negotiate because then Hopkins will "echón want and demand more."
     
  2. Mitchell Kane

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    I got a headache trying to read that auto translation. :lol:

    Not a huge surprise I guess, reports were Dibella had been in talks with King in regards to a Taylor fight...though I thought it was originally for a Mayorga fight.
     
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    Looks like a Ray Torres Translation :lol:
     
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    Taylor by clear decision if it comes off.
     
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    Yep.
     
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    I disagree. Taylor suffers his 3rd loss of his career. He may even get stopped! I'll Holla 5000
     
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    Even today's past his prime Trinidad will be too much for Taylor at 160. At 168, Taylor may have a chance and imo it is a pick'em.
     
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    Taylor UD
     
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    Though many have claimed Tito to be a limited fighter with poor footwork. I consider Taylor to be even more limited then Tito with worst footwork then Tito. Not to mention Taylor has shown that he will tire down the stretch of a fight which will be his undoing. Tito beats the shit outta Taylor. I'm just pissed that Roy doesn't get that opportunity. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    :doh: WTF!?..there you go again, raggin' on the white guy, Jermaine's 18 times more skilled, he's bigger, stronger, quicker, well balanced (in comparison to Tito), Felix got by on size and loaded gloves in small divisions, Hopkins put a stop to the loaded gloves apparatus, leaving just him, with clean mittens, up against a natural light-heavyweight = 'goodnight'. Tito faces the same thing this time, only his arse-master to be, is twice Hopkins father,.. :eeeek: wowohoaoaowowowwawawa <--* frequency in between channels here.
     
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    Tito is not an elite fighter.

    And while it's hard to call Taylor himself an elite fighter, it takes an elite fighter to beat him.
    He beat nard twice, and people are acting like Tito runs him over? :lol:

    No way, Taylor by UD.
     
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    Not to mention he went 12 hard rounds with Pavlik in a close fight.
     
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    Taylor have lost confidence, and the fire he had when he fought Bernard. Plus he lost by brutal KO, which could make him more vulnerable to Trinidad's power.
     
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    Well getting brutally KO'd didn't seem to affect him much when he put in a much better performance and went the distance with Pavlik did it?

    He didn't win, but he wasn't close to getting KO'd again.

    I don't like Taylor at all, and I quite like Tito, but I have a hard time seeing Tito winning this fight.
     
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    This = truth. Even if Tito was 28 and the fight was at 160 I'd pick Taylor. The fact Tito is a hundred years old and fighting at a weight where he's gonna be dwarfed makes this fight am absolute no brainer.

    Nice comeback gimme for Taylor. 5th A class fighter for Tito, fifth defeat.
     
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    Ridiculous matchup. Don King is embarrasing his legacy.

    Taylor beats his big headed, narrow shouldered, low acumen, non English speaking ass with consumate ease...
     
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    It's Probably Wise to Make Taylor the FAVORITE, but what Happens when he Gets HIT (Which he WILL)???:dunno: ...

    Tito's Got as Much POP as Pavlik, w/QUICKER Hands...

    Taylor Fought Near PERFECT N The RE w/Pavlik, yet he Still COULDN'T Maintain his FOCUS for 12 Rounds...@ SOME Point, Tito's Gonna BUZZ &/or HURT Taylor...

    What Happens THEN???...


    REED:dunno:
     
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    This is bullsh*t.

    Roy Jones soundly outboxes Felix Trinidad

    • Tito is washed up (Perhaps)
    • Tito was out of shape (Like he looked any better against Joppy)
    • Jones should've KO'ed him(Well maybe if Tito gave it all like he did against Hops, instead of folding like a tent as soon as he got dropped)

    But somehow Tito is getting a shot at Taylor? Jones? Oh yeah, he's REALLY washed up.

    Ridiculous. The loser of Jones-Trinidad should've retired. The winner should be the one getting these kind of fights. If Jones is so washed up, some big name should give him a shot and knock his lights out. He's practically begging for it.
     
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    Trinidad is going to knock Taylor stupider. :lol:
     
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    I assume this fight would be at 168 lbs.?

    This fight "makes sense" as both men have lost their last fights (in Trinny's case, more than that :lol: )....but I really wish Trinidad would either play all the way or retire.

    Either way he's faded.

    If it's at 168 lbs. it will benefit Taylor quite a bit.

    Peace.
     
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    I think Tito gets stopped late but that doesn't mean that he wont' have his moments.

    Tito actually impressed me in the Jones fight. He changed up a lot of things and wasn't as one dimensional. I think it would be a fantastic action fight while it lasts.
     
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    Exactly. Tito doesn't need to take these fights above 160 where he's just being treated as a stepping stone to bigger things. He really needs to take some softer fights right off the bat and work his way back up in competition. I think he could make 160 interesting.

    What about Tito vs Miranda? That would be a good fight to make if he's planning on staying at 168. Both guys need a solid win, why not?
     
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    Because I don't think Trinidad has the sharpness or intensity for that kind of fight.

    He wants to get paid, not build on his legacy, that's why he fought Jones at the weight he did his first fight back.

    I do agree with Reed that he could give Taylor some problems, because his hand speed and accuracy, esp. with left hook, may be diminished but still are better than Taylor.

    But Taylor's a professional in his prime and Trinidad's in suspended retirement that's soon to be resumed. I question whether he could finish the job if he did get Taylor hurt.
     
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    Tito vs Miranda would be a fun fight to watch. I say they make it!
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    If Tito won this fight it would be huge for his career.
     
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    There you go stuck on stupid with the racial shit. Dude talk boxing and leave skin color out of the fucking thread. You and your boy OC can have it on eastside. Go there with your immature bullshit. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    Joe,

    Taylor couldn't stop Ouma or Spinks two fighters that are hella smaller than Taylor. Not to mention Ouma was walking Taylor down. What do you think Tito will do to Taylor not to mention he will hit Taylors ass with some shots. Taylor loses this fight. I'll Holla 5000
     

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