Donaire's KO of Vic Darchinyan (and a shameless nut swing)

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  1. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Really one of the best knock outs I've ever seen.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfZCCU5hwC4&t=1m35s

    The weight transference onto the back foot and the disguise & draw it created was incredible and to be able to get the power & torque he did from that position? It was Joe Louis level knock out punching.

    In fact, I think Donaire's probably the truest master of boxing as it used to be understood left - namely of HURTING guys and not BEING hurt due to subtle positioning and angling. His KO of Montiel was almost as beautiful, the way he saw the right coming, and had the presence of mind to take the lick of letting it land high as he rolled with it in, knowing that the pay off of the big blind hook was worth it. It was exquisite. That's boxing to me, that's why I watch the sport.

    Floyd is admittedly a master of point scoring, landing punches and not having punches land on him. A slightly more binary mastery. And possibly even more effective purely in winning rounds & getting Ws. But in terms of the more subtle and visceral art of boxing in the old school sense - FIGHTING with your hands - Donaire is the man, right now for me.

    Love letter over (for now) :bears:
     
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  2. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Ref should've gave Vic a chance.
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Donaire is badass, no doubt. Highly skilled with no pitty-pat nonsense.

    But Floyd is better. Hitting and not being hit isn't the art of scoring points, it's the art of boxing..
     
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    Yeah Donaire is a quality performer, one of my favourites
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Donaire should fight Pacquiao.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    TLC is too cool for school.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    I've always preferred guys who's objective is hurting and not being hurt.
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You don't want to see him fight Pacquiao?

    That'd be the best fight in a long time.
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Floyd isn't exactly Cory Spinks, bro. Donaire is definitely P4P the bigger hitter but he's also HUGE for his weight class.. let him go up a few more weight divisions and see if he's still laying guys out.
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Donaire said hes going to 135 at least. I think he could land at 140.
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Donaire vs Rios would be stellar as well.
     
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    Donaire is a ridiculous offensive fighter. It's almost like he's fighting in slow motion, the way in which he reacts to things and picks his shots.

    Plus he has rather obscene overall talent, handspeed, footspeed, power, agility etc.

    Incredible what a mismatch him Vs someone as legit as Montiel turned out to be.

    He is fucking big even at 118 though. It'll be interesting to see how he fares when he moves up further, to featherweight let's say, which is the division IMO that stops being a proper "little guy" division.
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He's 5'7. Of course he's huge at that weight. He said he's going to 130 and then 135.
     
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    He would knock rios out in 5.
     
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    I hope you're entertaining yourself.
     
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    he's a wanker, in the parlance
     
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=4396348


    Crazy how someone who fawns over old fights never reads anything or watches interviews of their supposed favourite fighters. :notallthere:
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I don't know about that. Rios is a big 135lb supposedly. He puts on a lot of weight in the ring. He's even bigger than Pacquiao. Donaire at 135 would be fighting at close to his real weight, like Pacquiao does right now at 144.
     
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    Look, the article says he scaled in at 142 when he was overweight and out of training. Then he later says that he feels he can make it to 130 & 135 one day and hopes to do so to emulate Arguello.

    So you read that and your suggestion is that he move up to 147lb to fight a fellow p4per. 5lb heavier than his fat, untrained walking around weight. And two weights higher than he's even expressed a pipe dream of reaching. A jump of 6 divisions against a guy who would be a massive challenge if they were the same size.

    etc

    Please stay out the boxing forums. You don't contribute to the discussion and you don't even enjoy this quasi trolling, either.
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Pacquiao isn't 147lbs you goof. He fights at his real weight and that's only been 143-144lbs.

    Nonito is around 135lbs as his real weight. Wow. 8lbs difference. My god. It's not like Pacquiao just fought a guy who was 8lbs bigger than him at the weigh ins alone. Not to mention, Pacquiao could easily meet him at 140lb and probably even 135lbs.

    Rios is probably bigger than Pacquiao and he only fights at 135lbs.
     
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    Regardless, one is a BANTAMWEIGHT champion, one a fucking WELTERWEIGHT champion. Those are the weights they're proven at. If I came in the MMA forum and started suggesting shit like the lightweight champ should fight the heavyweight champ next because one was big at the weight the other small Id love to see your reaction.
     
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    Hut, don't bother

    You should check out the ridiculous debate we had regarding Foreman... all this kid does is say deliberately stupid things and when you rip his position to shreds, he accuses you of being a "strawman" and runs away

    Fuck him, don't waste your breath
     
  23. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    I know all too well. I wanted him banned from the MM forum for months before he thankfully seemed to move on of his own accord. It wouldn't annoy me if he was like Hanz and enjoying himself. Fun, cool. But he isn't and the whole thing's senseless. I hope he's alright but you cant possibly be happy when you're THAT bored and it's a slippery fucking slope & I've seen people slide off. Weed is usually involved.
     
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    And?

    Who the fuck cares? Do you get all butthurt at the prospect of Manny fighting Margarito? OH! ONE IS ONLY 144 LBS! THE OTHER IS A JUNIOR MIDDLE! OMG!

    Donaire is a bully anyone. He's bigger than everyone he fights. Secondly he's not young...he's 28. IF he says he's going to move up to 135lb, it's going to be sooner rather than later.

    There he can fight big names like Rios or Pacquiao.


    Also nice comparison by the way, I can see you are just as sharp as a tack. Comparing an 8lb difference(holy shit, monumental) to a 100lb difference. Nice. You are a genius Hut.
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Then again I'm not sure why Im arguing with one of the retards that still consistently refers to Pacquiao as a "former flyweight" like anyone gives a fuck.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    If somebody had said Pac should fight Tony when he was still at 122 I would have gotten 'butthurt' yes. Pac went up one weight at a time and surprised allot of us each time. If you think Donaire should begin doing the same, fair comment, but don't come into my threads & poop on the carpet saying bantamweight p4pers should fight welterweight p4pers. In fact just stay out my threads generally please, if you would.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Can you find a post when I've done that in the last 6 months?
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Donaire is much bigger than Pacquiao. He's starving for some reason. But he's a naturally larger man. He may not be roiding though like Pac.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    In boxing terms the difference between Lightweight in MMA (Light middle boxing) & heavyweight is 5 weight classes, you're suggesting a 6 weight jump.

    Chill out.
     
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