ENGLISH ORBITALS & ENDSWELL...

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  1. REEDsART

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    What's Up w/Black Brits and Their Orbital Bones Lately???:Jest:...

    Kell Brook vs. GGG, Kell Brook vs Errol Spence...And Even Though Brook's Orbital Held Up vs. Terence Crawford, a Single Power Jab to the Left One Effectively ENDED the Fight...

    And Now Daniel Dubois:Dont:...

    Seriously, It REED Got to Thinking How Endswell Might Actually EXACERBATE the Fracturing of an Orbital Bone???...The Cut Man ISN'T a Doctor, Nor Does He KNOW a Fighter's Shit is Fractured IN the Moment...His Goal is to REDUCE Swelling Around the Eye...

    But in the Process, an ABNORMAL Amount of Pressure is Applied to a Piece of Metal, Against the Orbital Bone, Anywhere from 45-55 Seconds Straight, for Several Rounds...

    No Way to Know for SURE and It's Obviously a Case by Case Deal, But It Seems Likely EndSwell Can Actually WORSEN a Fractured Orbital Bone Or Even Take One On the Verge of Fracturing OVER the Edge...

    Or is REED Completely OUT of His Fucking Mind???...





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    Dubois just aint built tough apparently. Joyce is a big guy but it was alarming the amount of damage his slow arm punches were doing to Dubois face
     
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    good point brother REED<
    you COULD have a case where some dummies are RAMMING that ends well on a slightly damaged orbital and making it worse.
    That said, I think we all agree that in general EUROS have thinner/weaker orbital bones than Americans
     
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    I don’t think it’s the endswell, that things been around for too long and unless we have just recently come across a few guys who were using it incorrectly I don’t see how it can be the cause of these few guy’s orbital fractures. Shouldn’t there be many more instances if that were the case?
     
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    Nope, it's not the endswell.

    Once there's a fracture, there's a fracture. The body works to protect that fracture by clotting blood around the injury, in other words, the eye swells.
     
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    the root is EURO orbitals are thinner than others.. if they get fractured and swell, the cut men MASH it with endswell and make it swell more
    the thinness of the orbital in Euros is likely due to bland foods like Boiled chicken etc.
     
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    We're talking about men of African lineage here.
     
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    doesn't matter, lineage is one thing but the old "nature vs nurture" Environment plays a part
     
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    REED Ain't Suggesting EndSwell CAUSES Orbital Fractures at All...

    The Motherfucker Repeatedly PUNCHING the Orbital is the CLEAR Cause of It...

    REED's Wondering if, After an Orbital Suffers the Slightest Fracture, the EndSwell Could/Would (Slightly) WORSEN the Damage, Btwn Rounds???...Could the DEGREE of the Orbital Fracture Increase w/an Unbeknownst Cut Man Applying Pressure to an Already Fractured Orbital Bone???...




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    It's called heavy handed.
     
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    But w/That Said, the MAJORITY of the Time a Fighter's Eye Swells He HASN'T Suffered an Orbital Fracture...

    Orbital Fractures HAPPEN, But They're Not "Commonplace" in Boxing, Necessarily...Unless They Simply Go UNREPORTED In Most Cases???...




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    Remedy brings an interesting point i never considered actually
     
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    this is true,

    most fights a guys eye will swell from punches but breaking the orbital takes SERIOUS power. I think what we have seen here is just more that the EURO orbitals seem to break at a higher rate than others.
    I wonder if Black Euros and White Euros are the same in that regard? I believe it isn't racial at all it's that you know how Euros eat real nasty food?

    here is a nice example of the nastiness [​IMG]
     
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    Beef wellington is amazing
     
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    LOK would you say double L has become kinda euro, iyo?
     
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    Yeah right.
     
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    You ever had it?
     
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    Are You Saying Doub's Orbitals are SUSPECT???...




    REED:eek:
     
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    Brother Neil, I honestly don't know where our old friend Double Bubble is from.
    If he likes beef wellington he could be partially EURO
     
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    Rate the Projected Strength of Doub's Orbital Bones Brother LOK???...

    On a Scale of 1 to Kell Brook...





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    Is Double Bubble Black?

    I have no idea where he is from or what he looks like

    Brother Reed, I know you are black and you are in the great state here with me.. I'd say you have solid orbitals.

    We have WHATABURGER so our orbitals are solid!
     
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    We had a similar discussion back in the day asking if Chris Byrd's boxing style causes shoulder/rotator cuff injuries for his opponents.
     
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    lol

    it very well might have
     
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    Doub's a White Guy from Ohio...REED's Doubting Doub's EVER Had a Whataburger Though...

    +/-, Based on the Evidence, Compare/Contrast Doub's Orbitals to Kell Brooks???




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    white guy from Ohio?? WTF!?!?

    ok, based on that and lack of WHATABURGER... I'd have to rate Double Bubble with genetically naturally stronger/denser Orbital, but Kell being a professional boxer and years of training would make him still more solid

    so if neither guy EVER trained.. Double would have stronger Orbitals!

    Double Bubble is the kinda guy that grew up throwing hay in the truck. Just COCK strong. He probably wore tight white t-shirts with a pack of lucky strikes folded up in his sleeve.

    Double would spend the day throwing hay in the truck bed all day, then go have a smoke and a big mason jar of CORN LIQUOR (aka Moonshine)
     
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    I understand in OHIO they like to put big ass piles of shredded cheese on top of their spaghetti. that sounds like solid ORBITAL strengthening stuff
     
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    For sure 100% it does. Not only are they mashing the broken bones, but the whole point of swelling is to protect the damaged area and hold everything in place so it can heal, so obviously working to get rid of the swelling does the opposite and works to expose the damaged area to further abuse.
     
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