ESPN : Key to super fight could be '24/7' testing

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  1. Antwuan Maxx

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    Arum willing to get Pacquiao to move on testing

    Key to super fight could be '24/7' testing

    Updated: December 28, 2009, 5:59 PM ET

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4777048

    With the proposed March 13 Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. super fight hanging in the balance as the camps continued to slug it out over drug-testing protocol Monday -- the deadline imposed by Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank to finalize a deal -- Arum said he was open to talking to Pacquiao again about the timing of the pre-fight blood test.

    Also Monday, the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the fight because it is due to take place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, set in motion plans to randomly test the urine of both fighters regardless of whether the fight takes place.

    Throughout negotiations over the drug testing -- the final point the sides need to agree on -- Pacquiao has said he would submit to unlimited random urine tests. However, he refused Mayweather's demand to have random blood testing. Instead, Pacquiao agreed to take three tests, one during the week of the kickoff news conference in early January, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight, and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather would be subject to the same testing.

    However, Pacquiao's past actions might help Arum convince him to tighten the window for the final random blood test.

    When HBO televised "Pacquiao/Hatton 24/7" -- the four-part series that followed the build up to Pacquiao's second-round knockout of Ricky Hatton to win the junior welterweight title in Las Vegas last May -- it aired footage of Pacquiao taking a routine blood test as part of his pre-fight medical exam in Los Angeles.

    The blood test was conducted approximately 14 days before the fight; it punches holes in Pacquiao's argument that giving blood inside 30 days of a fight negatively impacts his performance.

    Arum was intrigued by the "24/7" scenario. He told Reuters on Monday that he was ready to move away from Mayweather and announce a new opponent on Tuesday for Pacquiao, but that was before the "24/7" scenario was brought to his attention.

    "I will transmit it [word of Pacquiao's '24/7' test] to Manny once [HBO Sports president] Ross Greenburg establishes the actual date of the test in '24/7' and [the Mayweather camp] makes a proposal based on what Ross has come up with," Arum told ESPN.com from Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. "If that happens, I am sure I can convince Manny" to tighten the testing window.

    Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy, which is promoting Mayweather for the fight, was also made aware of the "24/7" footage, telling ESPN.com, "I need to discuss it with Team Mayweather. We need to find out what it means if you cut off testing 14 days before the fight. I want to talk to [Mayweather advisers] Al Haymon and Leonard [Ellerbe]."

    Although talks had broken down on Sunday, the camps were at least talking again on Monday afternoon after they learned of the "24/7" scenario.

    "It's a very good point to point out that Manny was tested so close to the [Hatton] fight," Arum said. "I'm not going to suggest anything to him though, until I hear from the other guys. They have to say, 'This is what Manny did. Here is what we propose.' Then I will bring it to Manny and say, 'Manny, look, you took this test however many days before the fight and it didn't affect you. Hey, you knocked him out in two rounds.'

    "What will Manny do? I assume he will listen to me, but I can't promise anything. But I want [Mayweather's camp] to make a formal proposal that this is the outside date for the blood testing based on Manny's prior test in 24/7 and then I will move mountains."


    Prior to discussing the "24/7" scenario, the camps were looking at alternative March fights. Both camps had reached out to former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi. Arum was also prepared to have Pacquiao challenge for a title in a record-extending eighth weight class against Yuri Foreman, a Top Rank junior middleweight who won a belt on the Pacquiao-Miguel Cotto undercard on Nov. 14.

    "We'll ask the MGM which fight they want [Pacquiao's or Mayweather's] and the MGM will then pick the fight and alienate one of the fighters forever," Arum said. "We have another date [of March 20] that we can go on outside of the MGM and we will do that if we have to. If HBO takes sides, which they're free to do, we have discussed alternatives."

    Meanwhile, in Las Vegas, the Nevada commission held its final meeting of 2009. At the conclusion of the 25-minute meeting, chairwoman Pat Lundvall closed by invoking the commission's right to conduct random urine tests on Pacquiao and Mayweather.

    "The Nevada administrative code obligates any unarmed combatant to submit to tests if they're directed to do so by a member of the commission for prohibited substances," Lundvall said at the public meeting. "And it was in 2007 that we amended our regulations to ensure we were following the World Anti-Doping Agency's prohibited list. ... That is the list we adhere to for the purposes of the testing that is conducted through the athletic commission. We determined that those provisions applied not only immediately before and after a fight, but also to random testing during training, and that any member of the commission can request such a random test."

    Lundvall asked commission executive director Keith Kizer to employ the commission's random testing procedure and "request a urine sample from Floyd Mayweather as well as Manny Pacquiao. They're both licensees and they are subject to these kinds of exams whether the proposed fight goes forward or not.

    "Random testing is the best way to evaluate the compliance with our rules and regulations against prohibited substances and the primary reason for that is that an athlete doesn't have time to cycle out or flush out any prohibited substances, and therefore random testing is the best thing to employ, which is why I thought it was a good idea for Keith to inform these fighters that we would like to have a sample and move forward with our random testing."

    Commissioner Bill Brady added that he supported the request to ensure the safety of the fighters as well as to "reassure the public worldwide that when anyone fights in Nevada that they can count on those fights being fair, above board and on a level playing field. I think it's important that the public knows the commission takes their responsibility seriously."

    Kizer said the request for samples would go out immediately and that he expected both fighters to comply within 48 hours. Mayweather lives in Las Vegas, so that should not be an issue. But even with Pacquiao in the Philippines, Kizer said they have labs they work with worldwide.

    Kizer said the results would likely be back within a week of the test.

    "That's fine, no problem at all," Arum said when told of Nevada's ruling. "We are absolutely in favor of it. That's what they should be doing. That's what they do in other sports. I see no reason why they shouldn't do it here. We support it 100 percent. I really applaud the way the Nevada Commission has acted.

    "I will check with Mayweather," Schaefer said, reacting to Nevada's request. "Right now, I need to focus on getting the fight done."

    Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.

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    Sounds like both Arum & the Nevada commission are willing to use their leverage to make this fight happen. All sounds very promising. Not only that the fight will take place but that we'll all be able to be confident that everything is above board.:cheer: Viva Boxing!
     
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    All this talk about roids is to generate more and more publicity. Just think they haven't even had to pay for advertisement and look at how much this fight is being talked about. This fight his gonna do crazy ass ridiculous amount of numbers. This shit is planned. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    Yep. The Monday deadline has now been scrubbed. This fight is going to happen no doubt and all this bullshit and arguing is for naught. The only reason Pacquiao's excuses are so suspcious is because it's a bunch of scripted bullshit to drag this shit out. I'm done discussing who's right and who's wrong. My only point now will be to point out during arguments that this is all scripted publicity bullshit.
     
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    IM starting to lean that way too.
     
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    Exactly. You don't think that Manny or his people knew about his tats or perhaps when he did his blood test against Hatton. Come on. Like I said these mofos are not gonna let the biggest fight in history just go away. Why else is PBF making consessions on the testing after they said came up with the orginal proposal. First the Mayweathers drew their lines in the sand then Arum drew his and now look both are saying wait wait let's see what we can do. This is shit is all about the hype. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    Hopefully jr and sr haven't been sharing any needles.
     
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    It would be hilarious if Floyd failed his test. :lol:
     
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    What if when it's time to take his urine test Floyd keeps saying he can't go? He drinks bottled water after bottled water and even lets the faucet run but still claims he can't go.

    Shouldn't I rightly assume that Floyd is hiding something?
     
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    i would absolutely love it
     

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