Evander Holyfield's Daddy is Back!

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  1. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Riddick is now fighting in parking lots. War brain-damaged Bowe!


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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Former two-time world heavyweight champion Riddick "Big Daddy" Bowe (42-1, 33 KOs) is set to face Rocky Phillips (21-14, 19 KOs) in a ten-rounder on August 19 in a ring set up in the parking lot of Jeff Ruby Waterfront in Covington, Kentucky (across the river from Cincinnati). Rocky is currently training at the Shamrock Gym in Covington, while Bowe has been preparing at his home gym in the Washington DC area. On Friday, Bowe and crew will move their home base to Covington. The card was put together by legendary matchmaker Don Elbaum, who has a long history in the area with Aaron Pryor, Tony Tubbs and Tommy Ayres. Tickets are $125, $50 and $35.[/FONT]
     
  2. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    Yep & REED Bets Bowe Logged PLENTY of "Miles" Going Back & Forth to his REFRIGERATOR...

    REED would B SHOCKED if Bowe's UNDER 260 on Fightnight...



    REED:cool:
     
  3. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Riddick is the definition of shot. He was almost KO'd by Billy freaking Zumbrun. RETIRE!
     
  4. Beyond the Grave

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    Billy Zumbrun's the ish,recognize.
     
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    Sad. Like him or not Big Daddy in his prime was a helluva fighter, and was a likeable cat with alotta charisma to him. Now he's shot and brain damaged and pullin knives on his wife(which is probably a side effect of the brain damage).
     
  6. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    I would like to see Holyfield fight bowe again and settle the score. there is a ppv worth ordering. thats a legacy fight for evander.
     
  7. Hanzy

    Hanzy "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    His title reign was awful. He defended against dying Dokes and near-dead Ferguson. Careful match-making at its finest. Rock Newman sure loved his boy.
     
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    Thats the normal part of his brain that made that decision.
    These bitches better recognize .:warning:
     
  9. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Evander would kill Bowe if they fought now.
     
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    The Only Thing NOTEWORTHY about Riddick Bowe's Championship Reign was the FACT that he DUCKED Lennox Lewis...

    VERY TALENTED Fighter,but a Bit of an UNDERAchiever...


    REED:cool:
     
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    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    dsimon writes:

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    Next time I am down to Santa Cruz I am going to find a parking lot and me and you Z meister 12 rounds for the king of the boardwalk title... undisputed.
     
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    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Neil was kidding.... Poor Bowe. What else can the guy do? :dunno:
     
  13. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Bowe's post-title, WBOish reign was very, very solid, but the wbc trash and the aforementioned dokes/ferguson crap was just pathetic.

    Bowe was on mY hate list, but his will to win was off the charts. His will to train must have been almost off the charts on the other end, though.
     
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    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I never liked Bowe either. I always felt he was overrated. The guy was just really immature and it affected his boxing. But was he really that good to begin with?
     
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    kidding about what? I would love to see evander thrash him and even the score. legacy fight!

    and I owned the santa cruz boxing circuit when I lived in the 831
     
  16. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Bowe was a very talented heavyweight. Besides his laziness and eating habits, his main weakness was his defense. While being a big guy who was extremely well-schooled by Eddie Futch on fighting up-close, he was easy to tag. He seemed to have a good chin, and showed a ton of guts in the Golota rematch, but he rarely faced big punchers. Kind of makes me wonder how he would've done against a guy like Tyson or Lewis.

    The ducking of Lewis might've been fear and a mental thing from the amateurs (although Bowe lost to Gonzalez in the Pan-Am games, then sodomized him as a pro), but I feel it was more a case of Rock Newman wanting his man to make the easy HBO dollars.
     
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    bowe offered lewis a fight. lewis' camp refused.
     
  18. mikE

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    True.

    Now fill in the details of the 'offer'.
     
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    dsimon writes:

    :eeeek: ??:eek:ld: :doh:
     
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    He was big and strong. Hard to say how skilled he was. Lewis was always light years ahead skill wise. Even when all the talking heads were saying otherwise Lewis and Ruddock Imo were just better.
     
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    dsimon writes:

    Are you trying to do a Double L impression on this thread? You really want to see Holly fight Bowe and Bowe made a legitimate offer to fight Lewis. What else Double?
     
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    I believe lewis was offered 7 figures and the priceless opportunity to beat the universally recognized baddest man on the planet. a chance to further his career immediately with victory. alas his camp turned it down and his career stagnated at that point.
     
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    Lewis didn't have to be offered anything... he was Bowe's mandatory.
     
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    Good post.
     
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    LL was never light years away ahead of Bowe in terms of skill. :nono:

    If anything, Bowe reached maturity skillwise, well before LL.
     
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    Bowe was good, very good. But he was never the full package which brings us back to ur question ... "was he really that good to begin with"? To which I now have to say he was just good and nothing more.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    Talent and skill are the minimum ingredients that one must have. One must also have discipline, mental toughness, fortitude, determination, professionalism etc. Bowe had very little of these traits. He would never have been a true success in any form of human endeavour. He was flawed.<o:p></o:p>
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    It short, he wasn't the full package.<o:p></o:p>
     
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    I didn't think Lewis was more skilled until he hooked up with Manny. Lewis was kind of raw and unpolished, his balance was often poor, he winged too many right hands.

    While Ruddock was a rather dumb and one-dimensional fighter, I would still have made him a live underdog against Bowe, because as I said before, Bowe's defense was poor and we rarely saw him face big punchers. Ruddock was a pretty quick fisted and powerful guy.
     
  29. mikE

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    <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by mikE
    Bowe's post-title, WBOish reign was very, very solid, but the wbc trash and the aforementioned dokes/ferguson crap was just pathetic.

    Bowe was on mY hate list, but his will to win was off the charts. His will to train must have been almost off the charts on the other end, though.

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    Buster Mathis, 14-0, "top 10", but a scrub. Easy win, even if Bowe should have lost for cheating.

    Larry Donald, 16-0.

    Herbie Hide, 26-0.

    Jorge Luis Gonzalez, 23-0.

    Holyfield, 31-2.

    Golota, 28-0.

    Golota again, 28-1.

    The only way to criticize that resume is to play Monday morning qb. Every one of those guys had big supporters, except Mathis.
     
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    In Bowe's WBO reign, he fought only three boxers in Gonzalez, Holyfield and Golota ... beating 2 out of three convincingly.

    I won't describe such a reign as "very, very solid".
     

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